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Post by elliott on Dec 8, 2017 19:55:40 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns vs Braun Strowman vs Samoa Joe (No DQ - WWE SummerSlam - 08/20/17) I may be alone in this but I instantly thought this was one of the greatest WWE matches ever. Like the night it happened. Then I watched it a few more times and holy fuck is it so fucking good. This is everything you could want. 4 Freakishly Huge dudes just destroying each other. This is like if Hansen vs Vader vs Tenryu vs Scott Steiner happened in Japan in 1992. Love this. Not a lock, but something I will consider.
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Post by Cap on Dec 9, 2017 16:05:06 GMT -5
Second
I thought this was really really good. I don't have it at quite the ELITE level Elliott does, but it is very much a worthy nomination. My biggest problem with it is that Joe sort of disappears in their layout of the match and he was so red hot at this time coming off the match with Brock and his part in building that. I thought adding some more Joe being Joe stuff might have pushed this even higher for me. Still, solid nomination. I'll consider it.
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Post by Kadaveri on Jan 6, 2018 8:03:13 GMT -5
I like the way Joe was used in that match actually. What makes this match really work compared to four ways in general is they managed to give each person their own character/role to play in the match rather than anyone being interchangable workers of spots. Joe is the spoiler. He's the heel who knows his best chance of winning this is to hide out in the sidelines until everyone else is weakened, and then pounce with a coquina clutch and choke someone out before anyone else has a chance to intervene. That dynamic makes the match feel ever so much more intense all the time, coz you know even if he's not on screen Joe is out there somewhere waiting for his opportunity.
Either this or Backlash 2007 is the greatest four way ever.
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Post by bossrock on Jan 6, 2018 18:20:38 GMT -5
Probably the greatest main event in Summerslam history and like Kadaveri said, might be the best fatal four-way too. The first 10 minutes of this is some of the hottest action of 2017 as Strowman just absolutely destroys everyone. The rest of the match never quite reaches the level of the opening stretch, but this is still an incredible heavyweight match.
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Post by Grimmas on Jan 6, 2018 18:46:08 GMT -5
No way, it didn't even make my top ten for this year. The start is an all-time great, but it is fucking awful from the middle till near the end where it comes to a good finish.
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Post by twfi on Jan 7, 2018 0:11:30 GMT -5
No way, it didn't even make my top ten for this year. The start is an all-time great, but it is fucking awful from the middle till near the end where it comes to a good finish. Didn't make my top ten either. I didn't have it as the MOTN either, Usos vs. New Day.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 7, 2018 0:25:35 GMT -5
I really liked this match. Braun destroying Lesnar was great and memorable. I don't think this would even make a list of my top 250 matches.
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Post by elliott on Jan 7, 2018 2:12:42 GMT -5
No way, it didn't even make my top ten for this year. The start is an all-time great, but it is fucking awful from the middle till near the end where it comes to a good finish. Would you mind elaborating on this?
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Post by smash1992 on Jan 7, 2018 7:56:01 GMT -5
This is one of those "not right now" matches. In the moment, in the context of discourse or whatever it just won't hold a candle to others. But give it a year or two and I can gain some perspective.
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Post by Grimmas on Jan 7, 2018 8:59:42 GMT -5
This is one of those "not right now" matches. In the moment, in the context of discourse or whatever it just won't hold a candle to others. But give it a year or two and I can gain some perspective. Don't make me rewatch it, but going by memory it's fucking great with Braun killing everybody. Then they pull out the tired stretcher spot and it felt like everybody was killing time until the Brock returned. The finish, with Brock winning, was disheartening and I don't really remember the stretch and it's nowhere near the opening of the match.
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Post by Cap on Jan 7, 2018 12:19:12 GMT -5
This isn't in my top 10 this year either.
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Post by microstatistics on May 2, 2018 1:16:38 GMT -5
Lesnar and Braun were easily MVPs. Braun is what the Big Show or any other big man who has come through WWE over the years should have been. An absolute monster who can demolish anyone but also sell well. I am still super high on Brock despite suplex city but yeah I wish he tones down the weak looking germans and incorporates more stuff like his killer lariats and knee lifts and other suplexes. All of his non-german offense here ruled. Great bumping and selling, for Braun especially. Roman's selling was strong as usual but this was one of his weaker performances of the year, he didn't contribute much. Joe looked great initially but sort of disappeared later on. I didn't like how they used him for the break up a pin spots which made him look weak. Overall, a really fun spectacle.
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Post by kas on Aug 14, 2019 16:07:52 GMT -5
This match successfully weaved two of my favourite WWE feuds of 2017 and just had 4 behemoths just demolish each other for 20 minutes. This match is also what sold me on Braun, he was great in the Roman feud but I still had my doubts, but this was a star-making performance for him. Total car crash in the best way possible.
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Post by mvz on Jun 11, 2021 20:23:56 GMT -5
I don’t think this makes the cut but it was so much fun. As others have noted the early part is the clear highlight.
I was never high on stroman but boy oh boy did he look like a world beater here. I would not have strapped the rocket to him but it is a shame to think of all they did here to make him look awesome and then think of where we are now. Sadly I suspect this happens all the time, but that was my thought.
When I was watching live I had the same complaints about the use of Joe but I didn’t mind so much this time around. I do agree that reigns was kind of meh in the match. Still, worth watching and considering.
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Post by KB8 on Apr 7, 2023 13:49:34 GMT -5
Okay, so last month I watched the Eddie/Benoit/X-Pac/Jericho fatal fourway from No Way Out 2001 and thought it was probably the best fourway in WWE history. Fatal fourways kind of suck so the bar for best fatal fourway might not be very high, but either way it's a really fun match. HOWEVER, I was dead fuckin wrong about it being the best fatal fourway in WWE history. My god this is a riot of a thing. It feels like the perfect encapsulation of modern WWE -- big set piece moments, lots of heat from the WWE Universe, four BIG BOIS doing BIG BOI SHIT. How did they fuck up so badly with Strowman? He looks like the next megastar here and that first stretch of the match with him tearing the place apart is seven star territory. The initial face off with Lesnar felt massive and the crowd were so ready for it to happen. I was initially disappointed that they cut it off before even locking horns when Reigns and Joe appeared, but then both of those two were swiftly dispatched leading to another Lesnar/Braun face off, the crowd even MORE ready for it to happen, and then this time it actually does. Braun hucking Lesnar about the place like a child was amazing and it's a shame Lesnar went the "that doesn't work for me, brother" route with Strowman, because on this night he made him look like an absolute juggernaut. People were not the least bit pleased about Reigns clotheslining Strowman over the top rope, but then Strowman just...didn't go over and instead chucked Reigns away by the vest and they should've called an audible and put the belt on him right there. The sequence where Strowman slams Lesnar through the first announce desk, then throws a swivel chair at Joe and Reigns, then slams Lesnar through the second announce deck, then tips the THIRD desk on top of him -- perfect. Heyman on his knees shrieking "BROOOOCK!" damn near in tears like a bereaved spouse was incredible and then Strowman picks up the steps and fucking whomps anybody else who gets close to him. The floor over on that side of the ring looked like a mortar bomb had gone off. If you're doing to do a stretcher job on Brock Lesnar then you better make it look good and this looked amazing. Brock's face was beetroot purple as well, like it was about to explode from pressure build up. I say this every time I talk about a triple threat or fatal fourway but it's hard to do these matches without having moments where one or more of the participants are just kind of chilling out the way, selling for extended periods off of things that normally wouldn't have them selling for extended periods. Even when Lesnar was out of the equation for a while and it became a triple threat - where it's even more difficult to come up with sensible ways to keep the odd man away from the action - they never had someone linger on the peripheries for ages. They rotated in and out and the stuff that kept one man down for a little while was plausible. Very little looked contrived and so much of modern WWE feels contrived to me, so the fact they managed to make it look organic is sort of astonishing. Reigns smashing the point of the steps into Strowman's ear was ugly as fuck and also gave a little raggedness to something that would've had to be mapped out meticulously. When Lesnar comes back out like a blotchy mutant from hell you know someone's for getting chucked about the place and I think everyone got chucked about the place. Nobody is better at being speared than Brock, the way he'll take the thing almost fully upright, no loosening of the hips to absorb impact, a brick wall that you need to run through. Just a spectacular match and maybe the best example of a motorway pile-up in WWE history.
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