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Post by elliott on Dec 4, 2017 1:34:24 GMT -5
Magnum TA vs Tully Blanchard (Steel Cage, I Quit Match) 11/28/85 JCP This is self explanatory. One of the greatest brawls in the history of wrestling. One of those few matches that transcends the genre and is something greater than a wrestling match and more of a life experience. Its Magnum vs Tully. I'll be surprised if this isn't a unanimous choice.
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Post by Cap on Dec 4, 2017 11:12:20 GMT -5
Second
I don't know what to say about this match that hasn't been said 100 times. This is just top shelf stuff that is universally loved. It is probably a lock for the top 30 for me and will get its consideration for the top tier. It is just a classic. Its nomination speaks for itself.
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Post by smash1992 on Jan 4, 2018 11:42:02 GMT -5
Third
In many ways I am afraid to rewatch it. Haven't seen it in years but when I first watched it on a WWE DVD it instantly became my favorite. A violent match where the emotions bring a feeling of realness to it.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 4, 2018 19:00:10 GMT -5
The cage match that all cage matches should be judged by. This would probably be the top fourth of my list.
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Post by J. (aka El-P) on Jan 6, 2018 9:49:18 GMT -5
The bloodletting of all bloodletting. This match is about 70% selling. The important is not what you do but what your project. And these two projected a whole lot of emotions. They actually did beat the shit out of each other too, looking to work snug. The blood was also quite a big part for the nightmarish visuals of two guys wanting to maul each other. Yeah, those screams... Tully is absolutely fantastic, but Magnum has a once in a lifetime performance too. The finish is an apex of violence, the post-match is fantastic while Magnum renouncing to injure Tully even more and dropping the piece of wood down. Classic match with timeless appeal.
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Post by stunninggrover on Jan 18, 2018 20:43:59 GMT -5
Great match. Bloody and violent. There's a decent chance this will be in my top 100.
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Post by karlpg on Jan 20, 2018 10:29:32 GMT -5
This match is everything to me a virtual lock for my top 10, I'm sure. Dramatic, brutal and more fun that you can imagine. A true wrestling classic.
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Post by Cap on Jan 20, 2018 11:03:58 GMT -5
I am genuinely curious how many #1s this will get. It feels like one of those matches that gets called "favorite of all time" and I will be very curious to see how well it holds up to people and how often it really finds itself in that top spot.
Its a lock on my list, but somewhere outside the top 10 probably
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Post by microstatistics on May 2, 2018 1:46:27 GMT -5
A superb brawl. Absolutely visceral hatred, great selling and an all time great finish/post-match.
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Post by superstarsleeze on Jul 22, 2018 17:58:14 GMT -5
This is something that I think has a very strong shot to finish number one in the overall list. It is not a number one candidate for me personally but I think this will make a lot of ballots.
NWA US Champion Tully Blanchard vs Magnum TA - NWA Starrcade 1985
In all my years of fandom, I don't think there is more UN-polarizing match than this one. It is universally praised as a ***** classic and undoubtedly one of the great violent brawls in history. There have been so many words used to describe this masterpiece of hate by so many people. I will try to do the match justice with my words.
What makes this match so special in my opinion are the screams of agony from Tully Blanchard into the microphone and Magnum's guttural roars of pain. It takes this match to a whole new visceral level. The eye gouging by both men is incredible. This is not a violent brawl in the usual fantastical sense of pro wrestling. This looks like what would happen between two men that truly hate each other. The match is one of the few matches where there is a real sense of fear for one of the competitors because of the danger they are in. Tully seemed to be in real danger when Magnum throws his shoulder into the arm and it was cut open. Magnum just loses control at the sight of blood and starts punching it and biting it. Baby Doll's reactions are pitch perfect. She is one of my favorite characters in pro wrestling and I really enjoyed her in this match. Tully claws at the eyes and just lunges at Magnum out of self-preservation. Then begins the mic punches from Tully. Goddamnit, Magnum say I Quit, ok you wont THUMP! Say it! THUMP! Say it! THUMP! One of the most famous sequence in pro wrestling history. Magnum gets into the mic shots too. Tully hits a inverted atomic drop and after a series of mic shots. Tully looks to be in control. Baby Doll chucks in a wooden chair, which Tully infamously shatters. Tully tries to drive a stake into the cut on Magnum's forehead , but he blocks. Magnum jabs the wooden stake into Tully eye and with blood pouring down his face and wails of indescribable pain Tully finally says YESSSSSSS! I love the ending of the match with Tully cowering in the corner of the cage looking like a pathetic, shivering man from the triumphant Magnum who slings the belt over the shoulder. *****
So greatest brawl of all time or greatest brawl of all time? Not so fast my friend! Slaughter/Sheik and Duggan/DiBiase are right there with this. I think Duggan is just as much as wild man in the cage and I think DiBiase does even better job selling that he is in there with a lunatic. It is more fantastical in its execution, but it is just as sweet in its payoff. Slaughter/Sheik has the advantage of not having the cage in my opinion which allows for Slaughter to bump huge and there is a more natural progression of shine-heat-comeback that takes you on a ride you can naturally go with and is so exciting. Magnum/Tully is so violent and so jarring. I think it is really cool how all three matches are paid off with a unique weapon. For Duggan/DiBiase it is the coal miner's glove, Slaughter/Sheik it is the boot and Magnum/Tully it is the wooden stake. When I think the matches are so close, things like context and the surrounding angle seems like it could break the tie. The DiBiase/Duggan angle is one of the all time great angles with DiBiase's return and the bloody Duggan cutting one of the greatest promos ever to the tuxedo match and DiBiase destroying Duggan's car. That bloody promo is fucking incredible and what a visual. For Slaughter/Sheik, the Pledge of Allegiance in Allentown gave my goosebumps and actually moved me. I am a sucker for these patriotic angles and Slaughter just knocked it out of the park. I loved the matches that let up to the Bootcamp match and how each match built on the next. Now we come to Magnum/Tully and I will be honest the buildup was pretty meh. I watched pretty much every Tully/Magnum promo from when Tully won the title to Starrcade right before I watched the match and they were entertaining promos, but this was not the next level shit I expected. The tit for tat dressing up as a cop was fun. The breaking of Sam Houston's arm was probably the highlight of the angle. "She likes it!" "She likes it!" angle with Magnum forcing himself on Baby Doll is definitely not timeless and I dont want to ruin anyone's memories, but I did not like a babyface doing those things to a woman. It soured me a little on the angle. Being objective, there is nothing that Magnum/Tully angle has that touches Duggan/DiBiase and Slaughter/Sheik. I think that is why I enjoyed those matches more. As for the best brawl, I still don't know. It is too close to call. I just don't think it is an open and shut case for Magnum/Tully.
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Post by [Darren] on Jun 9, 2023 15:07:17 GMT -5
I think this is coming off the list. It’s obviously great. But, every time I finish it I’m more relieved that it’s over then thankful I watched it.
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Post by puropotsy on Jun 14, 2023 19:31:32 GMT -5
This holds up so well. It’s like the Lawler vs Funk Empty Arena Match with fans. The use of the spike really adds such a layered amount of drama. Tully is so intense going after Magnum with it and feels like Michael Madsen in Reservoir Dogs. Then Magnum valiantly fights out with knees to the ribs and takes over with an all-time great finish. Is Tully quitting because it’s in his eye or because of the fear of it? Finish aside, the whole match holds up as well.
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Post by mrjmml on Aug 10, 2023 10:54:48 GMT -5
In the last review I talked about this match being the greatest match in Jim Crockett Promotions in 1985 and I don’t regret saying that, it’s the real main event of Starrcade 1985, the rematch between Dusty Rhodes and Ric Flair wasn’t nearly as good as this match, it’s just way better than any other match of the show and the whole year to be fair, I love how gruesome this match is, most deathmatches aren’t as gruesome as this match, deathmatches usually glorify violence in a way that makes them no longer uncomfortable but this match without being a deathmatch is more difficult to see than most matches that are promoted as bloody and violent but they’re just people bleeding for the sake of bleeding but this match is actually unsettling, there’s real tension between these two, the hate these two have for each other is palpable, they will do everything necessary to win this match, the I Quit stipulation makes it that much sweeter, being able to hear them scream NO! it’s emotional to a point I can’t describe with just words, the most impressive thing about this match especifically is the run time, they made one of the most emotional matches in wrestling history in less than twenty minutes, the level of violence in this match is something else, there’s blood but it isn’t about that, it’s about their willingness to do whatever it takes to make their opponent submit, in a way it’s close to the Trojan War, it’s an all out brawl caused by a woman, if you ask me this rivalry is way more epic and better written than Homer’s books honestly, the US Heavyweight Championship is the least important part of the whole ecuation, I mean it’s a midcard title, Magnum TA made Tully say yes.
Just watch it, you’ll love it if you are into brawls from the territory days.
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