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Posted by jetlag
Jan 7, 2018 12:04:13 GMT -5
Johnny Saint vs. Steve Grey (WoS 1/28/1980)
tl;dr another possible contender for the top WoS match, super high end fast paced technical match that tells a story. full review: Johnny Saint is the World Champion here. Steve Grey has beaten him the year before, can he do it again? Something I love about old european wrestling: the weight classes that protected these lighter guys. This is an utterly incredible match. Easily the best Johnny Saint match ever. Part of why the match is great is the high speed, super athletic, tricked out technical stuff they do, but how they build it into an intense contest is magnificient. This is not the smiling, funny Johnny Saint who does jokes and tricks, it's Johnny Saint as the focussed, skillful champ against the most determined guy in the world. Walton puts over how impressive it is that Grey can even throw Johnny. They also map out the action beautifully, with some spots teased early on that get played off later, repeated sequences leading into transitions etc. Always with the focus on the challenger trying to topple the champ. Then you also have all these insane fast and intricate rope running exchanges. Another thing I like about this bout is that it's not nice. It's an all technical match with no strikes, but they were punishing eachother here. Each hold or takedown would be really wrenched in, Grey was constantly trying to snap Johnny's wrist. Grey would also claw his hand in Saint's face, Saint would smash his shoulder into the mat, elbow on the face when trying a pin, etc. I also really liked the use of the arm wringer bump or missed dropkick, these simple bumps look great in World of Sport and were timed perfectly. Grey is a crazy good babyface. He is great at putting over how fierce the bout is and how he was pushing himself to the limit to beat Saint. His selling was fantastic: He would slump over exhausted but then get up, or get Saint in a basic hold so he could regenerate his injured leg. Saint was less expressive but perfect for his role. |
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Posted by childs
Jan 9, 2018 14:17:50 GMT -5
Masterpiece and a lock for my top 100. The execution and athleticism in this match were just stunning. And as Jetlag said, they did it without sacrificing the nuts and bolts. I'm not sure it's the greatest British match, but it's the one I'd pick to hype a novice on the style.
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Posted by gordi
Jan 26, 2018 21:07:21 GMT -5
Thirded.
Love this match. Pure baby face vs pure baby face but as jetlag says they get totally fierce with each other. As a result, this just might be the very best technical face vs face encounter in the history of pro wrestling. |
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Posted by Cap
Jan 27, 2018 11:16:49 GMT -5
As I have been wading in the deep end of British wrestling lately, this is pretty easily my current pick for top match in the style. Grey is basically my favorite British wrestler from the 70s and 80s and Saint is unbelievably smooth and fast. They work some magic in this one that I think excels past some of the more animated or animosity driven matches that get praise.
This is a probably a lock for my top 100 at this point. I think Grey's comebck here is absolutely top tier. This is a match i want to watch up against matches I think of as the best of other styles. |
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Posted by puropotsy
May 13, 2018 14:07:40 GMT -5
I'm a few matches into my watching for this poll and this is my # 1 so far. It probably won't stay there but will rank well. Great technical wrestling and I thought their capturing of their falls was perfect. Great limb work as well and I loved the intensity and was invested in the outcome.
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Posted by Cap
Jun 27, 2018 17:12:27 GMT -5
This is from my watch/rewatch project writeup. You can find the full post here: gweproject.freeforums.net/thread/657/caps-watching-project-reports#ixzz5JfNLhkQf
Steve Grey vs Johnny Saint (1/28/1980 [air: 2/2/1980]) Current Rank: 44 Trending: Down My favorite WOS/Classic British match, I was really looking forward to seeing how this stacked up to stuff I love and have a better feel for. It wound up being sort of a good news/bad news situation. The good news is that I found it just as captivating and compelling as the other matches in this comparison. The bad news is that when all else is equal I am at my core a vampire. I want blood or at least hatred in my wrestling. This is a beautiful piece of work that tells a compelling story, but there isn’t any malice in it. It doesn’t have the teeth and that isn’t an indictment on the style as much as it is what these two were trying to do on this night. The match itself holds up in all the ways I expected it to, but I came away from this wondering if there was another match form the time period and region that might actually jump this, in turn shifting this down when it is all said and done. All the same, these are two of the greatest wrestlers to grace the earth with their skill, so I can’t imagine this falling into the triple digits |
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Posted by gradykm
Jun 21, 2021 8:45:07 GMT -5
I'd be in the camp of this likely being the best WoS match.
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Posted by elliott
Sept 2, 2023 0:06:39 GMT -5
Yeah feels like the Flair/Steamboat, Misawa/Kobashi, Santo/Casas, Okada/Tanahashi of the style. Just awesome.
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