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Post by microstatistics on Jan 13, 2018 21:56:40 GMT -5
My top TNA match and probably the only one that would make my list. Great story of the outmatched champion doggedly taking it to the unbeaten monster bully even if it's getting him mauled. Ultra stiff strikes and fantastic intensity.
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Post by Kadaveri on Jan 14, 2018 1:04:34 GMT -5
Seconded. This is Joe at his peak. Those kicks he's throwing at AJ into the ropes look truly devastating and he just has this explosiveness which unfortunately he lost post-2008. AJ gives one of the best performances of babyface psychology I've ever seen here. The three-way at Unbreakable is more famous for some reason but this is definitely the superior match for me.
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Post by problematic on Jan 14, 2018 7:14:53 GMT -5
I'll give this a third. Great match from the athletic peak of both guys. Very well put together match with some great singular moments but a strong theme too. Not my favorite Joe match in TNA though
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Post by Kadaveri on Jan 14, 2018 7:38:09 GMT -5
What is your favourite? So people can compare.
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Post by problematic on Jan 14, 2018 16:31:51 GMT -5
v. Daniels from what I think was the first Impact on FSN?
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Post by twfi on Jan 15, 2018 9:00:54 GMT -5
Fourth this. Both lay the stiffness to one another and Styles lip gets busted open as a result. Styles tries to tire the big man out. The defiance of Styles kicking out at 1. A peak match for both Joe and Styles respective careers.
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Post by bossrock on Jan 15, 2018 10:29:09 GMT -5
Fifth.
Arguably the best match of 2005 in a year where both guys were delivering bangers. Excellent babyface/heel dynamic from A.J. and Joe. For those who are skeptical on A.J.'s TNA work, I would highly, highly recommend they watch this match.
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Post by twfi on Jan 15, 2018 10:56:48 GMT -5
Fifth. Arguably the best match of 2005 in a year where both guys were delivering bangers. Excellent babyface/heel dynamic from A.J. and Joe. For those who are skeptical on A.J.'s TNA work, I would highly, highly recommend they watch this match. Both men were awesome in 2005. I'd say the best year for both involved.
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Post by maddog1981 on Jan 15, 2018 17:03:20 GMT -5
Fifth. Arguably the best match of 2005 in a year where both guys were delivering bangers. Excellent babyface/heel dynamic from A.J. and Joe. For those who are skeptical on A.J.'s TNA work, I would highly, highly recommend they watch this match. Anyone who doubts AJ Styles in TNA should watch his match with the Sandman match from 2003. He drags the Sandman to a really good straight wrestling match.
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Post by Cap on Jan 18, 2018 11:23:57 GMT -5
This is pretty easily my favorite TNA match. I like it much better than the triple threat that gets a lot of love. I still love joe, but mid 2000s Joe was a national treasure. Its sort of the highest end of AJ's work in TNA, which was usually really good, but I found could get predictable in places. I thought this was an example of him extending himself well. It is probably the only TNA match I will revisit seriously for the project. Right now I have it at 4.75 and not a lot of those matches are going to make my top 100. I do want to give it a chance though as both are top performers, this is a peak year for both, and it is the best match (imo) for a promotion that - love it or hate it - has been a big part of the wrestling landscape for a the better part of two decades now.
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Post by superstarsleeze on Feb 19, 2019 11:39:12 GMT -5
I LOVE this match. There is no doubt in my mind that AJ Styles was the best Wrestler on Earth in 2005. When I say he has a match even better than this, that is incredible because this match is so good, but I actually like the Abyss match slightly better. This is a real barnburner. Joe just rips into AJ and AJ gives as good as he gets. There is so much great AJ selling and bumping in this. I think both matches will make my list.
X-Division Champion AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe
I wrote in 2013: Greatest AJ Styles Performance Ever? I will say his performance against Bobby Roode in an ironman match at Final Resolution 2012 is his greatest performance of all time, but this is probably a Top Ten AJ Performance and thats saying a lot because he has had so many great ones.
My favorite moment when I watched in 2013 is the same as when I just watched it again: When Styles does a float-over off a Joe suplex attempt onto the apron instead of doing it fluidly he lands on the ropes to sell the exhaustion. I was in awe. He takes that extra couple seconds to really sell. Consequently instead of immediately following his forearm on the apron he sold more exhaustion before finally to trying to hit a springboard and ate a Joe powerbomb. Sublime. What I think stands out the most about this match compared to so many X-Division matches is the physicality. This match was a fuckin war and AJ got a nice busted up lip for it. Each wrestler earned everything they got.
AJ set the tone charging at Joe and manhandling him. You dont see Joe manhandled too often, but AJ was all piss & vinegar. AJ hits fucking hard and he was blasting Joe. I love how pumped AJ was after his snap suplex and his trademark dropkick. This does not get brought up enough, but AJ is so good at his dropdown. The whole point of the dropdown is trip your opponent while he running the ropes OR mess up his timing. Watch that Joe really has to step over AJ because AJ does his dropdown so tight. Since Joe is thinking about that, he does not think about the dropkick. Once Joe gets a hold of AJ the match really gets brutal. These are some of the sickest, stiffest kicks you will ever see. AJ did that sick bump off the apron onto the floor again and took Joe's offense like a champ. Joe kicked is leg out from under him and took a header on the apron. Then the real exclamation point is how Joe just slung him into the railing. This was a total shitkicking. Credit to AJ that he sold like a champ and bumped like a madman, but he never died. He always let us know he life left in his body. Thats huge. There is a great moment when AJ was looking to start a comeback but Joe just shoves him down and then hits a flying kick right to the face. I love how simple & brutal the match is. I loved the transition to AJ's comeback as it was Joe being overzealous and AJ having the presence of mind to back body drop outside the ring. Then he capitalized with a beautiful Fosbury Flop. I love how after each move AJ was going after pins because he knew he was weak and this was his shot. It really sold the urgency, you could feel that his time was fleeting and if he didnt capitalize now everything was lost. I loved the cat and mouse game they did late in the match with AJ duckin' and divin' not allowing Joe to get that full 100% impact. The busted lip happens here and it really had a big fight feel and that moment epitomized it. AJ continues back with flying kicks especially that wicked spinkick that rocks Joe. AJ needed those big bombs and head shots. Tenay & I think he going Styles Clash, but he hits a massive powerbomb for two. AJ tries to charge Joe, but it is a WICKED LARIAT (this lariat is insane; JBL would have creamed his pants for sure) and then a wicked Tiger Driver, but each time AJ kicks out at one. FIGHTING SPIRIT~! There is a great vicious sequence, Joe hits a wicked slap and then AJ hits his Pele Kick. That's the head rocking, stun kick, AJ usually uses to set up the Styles Clash, but here AJ sets the big man up on the top rope. which I dont love. The one flaw is the fact that AJ tried twice to setup Joe for moves on the top turnbuckle, which seemed odd. The second time it led to an awkward sequence and a lame AJ powerbomb (more like a double leg takedown), which only existed to give AJ a way to hit the Styles Clash. It was a minor flaw. AJ goes for a victory roll, but Joe traps him in the clutch and it is Goodnight Irene for AJ. After the match, Joe beats up AJ and tries to give him a musclebuster on a chair, but Daniels saves. I liked this match a whole lot, but I think I liked AJ/Abyss a hair more (I wrote that in 2013 and still feel that way now), but both are neck and neck for Best TNA match ever at this point. I have no idea why the Unbreakable match is the more famous match. This match blows that match outta the water. Again, it is the finish that holds this match back from being *****. To me this combines BattlArts brutality with really awesome bumping from AJ and start of the art offense with a strong story of urgency from both men really wanting to win. ****3/4
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Post by elliott on Sept 24, 2023 17:06:46 GMT -5
Not a fan. Rewatching Joe just reminds me why I'm not a fan of his stuff.
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