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Post by elliott on Nov 26, 2019 15:41:14 GMT -5
Jerry Lawler & Randy Savage vs. King Kong Bundy & Rick Rude (CWA - 9/10/84)
Legit one of my all time favorite matches. Simple match but great psychology with a crazy hot crowd and really different and specific larger than life characters. I just love this. Savage looks like he could spontaneously combust at any moment.
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Post by bossrock on Aug 24, 2020 18:31:21 GMT -5
Second.
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Post by Cap on Aug 24, 2020 18:32:56 GMT -5
Third
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Post by mvz on Mar 31, 2021 17:35:06 GMT -5
I watched this as well as the No DQ rematch and both were great. It was interesting to see Lawler kind of take a back seat to Savage here. But that choice definitely helped the match and drove the crowd mad. Savage’s airplane spin is the GOAT, or at least the best I have seen.
Elliott, your nomination could apply to either one of the matches with these four but I confess the rematch struck me as more of an Elliott match with Bundy squashing Lawler under a table and Savage flying off the top to the outside and the general mayhem. I am sure you have seen it, just inviting you to add any thoughts.
Anyway, I don’t know if this makes the list but as a fan of all four guys, it was an entertaining match for sure.
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Post by tetsujin on Dec 8, 2021 5:56:21 GMT -5
Yeah, this was very, very fun. Extremely simple, yet super effective because greater than life characters doing what they know best: Lawler sold and had his punches-based comeback, Rude oversold like a god, and Savage definitely was the mvp of the match thanks to his crowd control and the energy he showed at absolutely everything he did, he's just it factor personified. Bundy dissapointed me, I thought he would have been a great monster heel challenge for the babyfaces to overcome, and also to help compensate for Rude's chicken shit heel persona and allow the overall team to have some credibility, but he sold too much for Lawler and Savage and was treated like a fatter Rude instead. Didn't like the finish with Randy punching the ref outta nowhere and causing a no contest, but hey, they had a No DQ rematch for what I'm reading in this thread so I hope that's a whole better match overall. Won't rank, don't even think it's great because they only showed a small fraction of the marvels they could actually do together, but still an enjoyable match and one of the best Savage performances I've seen just by charisma alone.
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Post by KB8 on Mar 10, 2023 14:51:46 GMT -5
This might be the earliest supernova babyface Randy Savage performance on tape. In everything before this he'd been heel, and obviously he'd been a maniac, but this was something else. The energy, the VIGOUR, the presence and charisma, he looked every bit the superstar he'd become in the not too distant future. About half of this, maybe more, was his show. Lawler was content to step back and let Savage have the spotlight and obviously Savage made the most of it. Every interaction was pure electricity, every time he held up an elbow from the apron so Lawler could ram Rude into it, every time he put his dukes up for a fight, every time he jumped in to even the odds when the heels tried to double up, the heat just went up and up and the more it did the more he fed off it. At one point Bundy backed Lawler into the corner and wellied him with a huge punch, whipped him across to the opposite corner, then when he went in for the splash Savage ran across the apron and yanked Lawler out of dodge at the last second. There was another bit where Bundy had Lawler in the corner and went to clobber him again, so Savage snuck in and hooked Bundy's arm long enough for Lawler to crack him. The first proper Savage/Bundy showdown consisted of Bundy playing intimidation tactics by spitting on Savage and Savage spitting on him right back, Bundy left almost befuddled that someone would do that, then enraged when Savage did it again, then befuddled once more when Savage not only never backed away when Bundy charged but in fact met him head on. When Bundy grabbed a chair in frustration Savage grabbed a metal post and I think everyone knew he would use the thing. Rude gets punched around the ring and he doesn't quite have his shtick down yet, but he was fun getting punched around the ring and even took a big atomic drop in very Rick Rude fashion. Savage gives him maybe the best airplane spin ever caught on film, hits him with the double axe handles off the top, and at any given moment it felt like Rude would turn around and Savage would be perched on the top rope like a gargoyle ready to strike. He fucking terrorised Rude and it was amazing. Even in a lower key role Lawler was still a really strong face in peril, just turning the heat up little by little until the mad bastard on the apron gets the tag. When he does the lid comes off the place and then Savage's own lid comes off and the ref' gets decked and you know where that goes. The post-match brawl rules and I guess I'll watch the no DQ rematch next.
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Post by elliott on Mar 10, 2023 15:47:24 GMT -5
Yeah this is the best US tag match ever. Savage looks like the greatest wrestler ever.
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Post by club on Mar 11, 2023 8:25:41 GMT -5
Just watched this for the first time. Savage looks like the ace of the universe here. Best I've seen him outside of WWF by a mile. Will probably wind up on my list.
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Post by puropotsy on Mar 15, 2023 19:32:21 GMT -5
This was pretty great but was probably taken down a notch for me by expectations being so high based on hype. Savage does seem like a man unleashed here though and was very much fully-formed prior to his WWF run. Rude and Bundy are a great main event heel team and I’m really impressed with Bundy’s movement and Rude’s presence. It comes undone at the end for a brawl that leaves me looking forward to the No-DQ match.
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Post by puropotsy on Mar 15, 2023 20:20:41 GMT -5
So I started watching what I thought was the 9/17/84 rematch. I was impressed with how they were doing things to call back to the 9/10/84 match. Then I found it kind of repetitive. Then I realized I was actually re-watching the same match but mislabeled as 9/17/84.
Anyways, I then realized that there was a version of it in full with much better picture quality than either of the two versions I'd just watched.
Upon third watching (in a row) this is a greater match than I was able to realize at first. The Bundy vs Savage spit-off is epic. I was dizzy just watching the Savage airplane spin on Rude. And the DQ finish felt like a creative way to peak a match at fever pitch. Great stuff.
I don't think it is the greatever ever US tag match as Elliott said. But it is probably the best US version of two main eventers against two main eventers (think Flair and Sting vs Funk and Muta) as opposed to a tag team specialists match (MX vs RNR)
Now to actually watch 9/17/84
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Post by elliott on Jan 18, 2024 0:39:30 GMT -5
I watched this becuase it's been a tough run of watching and yeah this is the best. I voted it 18th last time around and that feels about 10 spots too low.
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