Wrestlers that May Not Deserve a Thread

I think what happened with Ultimo is that he was hugely praised when internet wrestling boards were becoming a thing. Like top 5 in the world sort of talk in 1996-7. When the Toryumon guys became popular it only increased the legend. This was back when VHS tapes cost upwards $20 so no one was going back and buying random WAR house shows and lots of folks just assumed he wrestled like the did in the J-Crown tournament all the time. By the time people were able to realistically obtain all the available footage from places, junior wrestling had fallen out of favor from the people likely to go back and revisit a WAR house show from 25 years ago. I like his best stuff a lot, but don't him very consistent.

I would very confidently say there's nothing from Jericho's WCW run that is a viable contender for a top 100 list. His best match is probably the Fall Brawl match with Eddy or the tag against the Faces of Fear...with Eddy. His best pre WWE match was the Hildebrand tribute match where he tagged...with Eddy (sensing a pattern.)

Oddly enough, one of Jericho's most praised Pre-WWE matches from back in the day was against Ultimo:
www.dailymotion.com/video/xkxff2

I honestly think the best match I've ever seen him have is that Kenny Omega one from the Tokyo Dome.

I don't think Brody was terrible, but he wasn't very good either. He had good chemistry with Funk but a lot of his stuff just seemed to be "walk forward and throw punches with the occasional chairshot".

Scott Norton is someone I eventually want to do a deep dive on. I don't expect any lost classics or motyc's but I bet there's a treasure trove of fun matches where he just destroys people. Case in point, I searched for Norton matches and watched the 1st couple that popped up. One was against Silver King and was just a squash where King got in zero offense and ate a huge powerbomb. Mercifully short. Then I watched a WCW Pro match against One Man Gang and in this random 4 minute Pro match, Norton motherfucking powerslams Gang to death for the win. Crazy impressive power spot from Norton and bump from Gang. Made up for the dull Silver King match and both were done in under 6 min total.

Speaking of One Man Gang, I dig him too which should come as no surprise.

You know who I don't like? Finlay. He's one of those "I see that he is great but I don't care." He just has weird negative charisma for me.

I think Sid's biggest weakness was how uncoordinated/awkward he was athletically which made his strikes look really weak. Its a tough thing to cover for when you're working in an environment where you can't really lay your shots in.

Which Raw tag match re: Jericho? The HHH quad match? We should rewatch the No Mercy match with Rock maybe as part of jetlag's mini tournaments? I remember always thinking that was the best Jericho match before that Omega one from the Dome.

That's probably closer to where I'm at with Finlay. I suppose my problem is he's always been linked to Regal and I think Regal is so obviously better that it affects how I view Finlay. I do LOVE their matches together and Uncensored 96 is a match I'll consider voting for on every ballot we do. I just think that Regal has so much more variety and depth in his work than Finlay was capable of. Regal could be vicious and brutal, but also work begging off chickenshit spots and just pure comedy spots. Of course Regal's facial expressions are arguably the best in wrestling history. There is no comparison between the two when it comes to acting/facial expressions/charisma. I've always found Finlay's European work to be pretty hit or miss. I know OJ has always pointed to his pairing with Princess Paula as when Euro Finlay fell off. But I've seen some stuff I've liked even with Paula around. But nothing that ever really blew me away. And that's the only time he got the real opportunity to work significant matches (that we have access to on tape) for like 15 years. His Japan stuff was always ok, but not memorable. There's some post WWE indy stuff I liked but nothing I'd really consider for these lists.

Finlay in WCW seemed to be in that Benoit/Malenko mold where what he's doing is objectively vvery good but he's sort of just working for himself...only Benoit & Malenko were always more over. You could argue that Regal did this too as he'd force people to work his style. But Regal was more engaging and charismatic and thus more over and often more featured than Finlay.

I don't mean to be overly negative on him, because I see that he's good, but he finished 48th overall during GWE and pulled a #6 vote from someone which I just don't see at all. Poor man's Ron Garvin.

Can anyone recommend anything great from Argentina Rocca? I watched his match vs Frank Jarens and am digging his wacky offence, cartwheels etc.