Post by tetsujin on Jan 18, 2020 9:36:16 GMT -5
I can't believe we had a threat for Omega ir Okada but not for Naito, so at least I wanted to give it a try.
We all know his peak stuff (16-17) is absolutely incredible, as he was easily one of the best un the world and producing some of the best wrestling matches of the 10s, some of them arguably among the greatest ever (the Tanahashi 2017 trilogy, the first Omega match). In that period, and still today, he's one of the most consistent guys in current New Japan, having a lot of 'from very good to great' matches against very different opponents and kind of matches: vs Shingo, vs Taichi, vs Moxley, vs Ishii, vs White, vs Ibushi, more against Omega, vs Shibata, vs Styles, vs Jericho, the infamous WK 12 main event, vs Juice... As you can see, not all of those are top tier workers and, even though Naito always had his classic spots in mind everytime, he managed to insert them without feeling it unnatural despite how the match was going to be.
But I gotta say, a peak from 2016 to 2017 is a two-year peak only, and there are a lot of workers with a larger and more diverse peak. I'm not saying Naito is on their league, at least not from a "peak" perspective. Some other things I love about him is how he always projects his persona, in a way that everything he does, it feels like the correct thing El Ingobernable Tetsuya Naito would do. He might be in that "larger than life" character tier with guys like Hokuto, Funk or Hansen, because of his fantastic character work and amazing charisma.
And, I gotta, say, is pre-Ingobernable stuff is pretty great top, clearly underrated. In the first half of the 10s you have great and even amazing stuff with Ishii, Tanahashi, peak Okada, YUJIRO TAKAHASHI, the WK 9 Styles match... His character was kinda dull back then, but he was already at a high level of work, both on a regular basis and in top tier matches, but obviously he needed that Ingobernable transformation to became the best version of himself.
Throughout his whole career, Naito became also one of my favourite offensive wrestlers on the modern era, not because he's stiff (he's not), ir because he's spotty (he is sometimes), but because he uses every part of his offensive game with a purpose. He doesn't spam things, he always do the right stuff when it has sense for him to do it. For example, his beautiful flying forearm smash or his spinebuster are great counters to his rival's momentum. He have great neck-based offense, setting up his bigger moves. The Destino literally was born as the perfect counter for the Rainmaker. I appreciate a lot stuff like that.
I think a case can be made about Naito being one of the best workers of the 10s, and to me it's early to consider him a top 100 ever contender, but his career looks great from today's perspective and I think he could be at the bottom of muy GWE list in 2026 ir 2036. We'll see. But I'm curious about what do you guys think.
We all know his peak stuff (16-17) is absolutely incredible, as he was easily one of the best un the world and producing some of the best wrestling matches of the 10s, some of them arguably among the greatest ever (the Tanahashi 2017 trilogy, the first Omega match). In that period, and still today, he's one of the most consistent guys in current New Japan, having a lot of 'from very good to great' matches against very different opponents and kind of matches: vs Shingo, vs Taichi, vs Moxley, vs Ishii, vs White, vs Ibushi, more against Omega, vs Shibata, vs Styles, vs Jericho, the infamous WK 12 main event, vs Juice... As you can see, not all of those are top tier workers and, even though Naito always had his classic spots in mind everytime, he managed to insert them without feeling it unnatural despite how the match was going to be.
But I gotta say, a peak from 2016 to 2017 is a two-year peak only, and there are a lot of workers with a larger and more diverse peak. I'm not saying Naito is on their league, at least not from a "peak" perspective. Some other things I love about him is how he always projects his persona, in a way that everything he does, it feels like the correct thing El Ingobernable Tetsuya Naito would do. He might be in that "larger than life" character tier with guys like Hokuto, Funk or Hansen, because of his fantastic character work and amazing charisma.
And, I gotta, say, is pre-Ingobernable stuff is pretty great top, clearly underrated. In the first half of the 10s you have great and even amazing stuff with Ishii, Tanahashi, peak Okada, YUJIRO TAKAHASHI, the WK 9 Styles match... His character was kinda dull back then, but he was already at a high level of work, both on a regular basis and in top tier matches, but obviously he needed that Ingobernable transformation to became the best version of himself.
Throughout his whole career, Naito became also one of my favourite offensive wrestlers on the modern era, not because he's stiff (he's not), ir because he's spotty (he is sometimes), but because he uses every part of his offensive game with a purpose. He doesn't spam things, he always do the right stuff when it has sense for him to do it. For example, his beautiful flying forearm smash or his spinebuster are great counters to his rival's momentum. He have great neck-based offense, setting up his bigger moves. The Destino literally was born as the perfect counter for the Rainmaker. I appreciate a lot stuff like that.
I think a case can be made about Naito being one of the best workers of the 10s, and to me it's early to consider him a top 100 ever contender, but his career looks great from today's perspective and I think he could be at the bottom of muy GWE list in 2026 ir 2036. We'll see. But I'm curious about what do you guys think.
