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Post by elliott on Dec 11, 2017 22:19:52 GMT -5
Akira Hokuto vs Shinobu Kandori (AJW - 12/6/1993)
This is a legit classic that is underrated because it isn't on the level of their first match, but that is such an unfair standard it is insane. This is an incredible match though full of emotion, great selling and heat and of course some incredible suplexes and bombs. This is something I want to watch and compare to other big matches outside of their DreamSlam classic. That just seems like an impossible standard to meet. When I watched it last I thought it was something that could be a top 50ish sort of match, but I want to take a closer look.
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Post by Cap on Dec 13, 2017 18:15:21 GMT -5
Second
I agree this one is criminally underrated. I really really like it, but it had absolutely impossible standards to live up it. It has all the intensity, adds layers with more history, but it just never reached that level of emotion that jumps off the screen and digs into the veiwer, for me. Again, that isn't even a knock. Its a great match.
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Post by Kadaveri on Jan 6, 2018 7:45:32 GMT -5
Agree with everything said above. If this was the first match and DreamSlam was the rematch maybe it would be better remembered. But as it stands this match is a tragedy, like Hokuto got a bit lucky last time but now Kandori has her all figured out and isn't going to lose again. The crying from the AJW wrestlers on the outside as Hokuto is getting beaten is really gutting. Great performances in a match I'm not sure I really wanted to see.
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Post by fadu on Jan 7, 2018 13:02:44 GMT -5
This match and Cena/Umaga at New Year's Revolution 2007 are my picks for the two best "other matches" of a feud ever. A perfect culmination to Hokuto's 1993. Hokuto's legendary pride just can't will her through every time. Sometimes, you're just outclassed.
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Post by bossrock on Jul 28, 2018 16:50:57 GMT -5
Agree with everything said above. If this was the first match and DreamSlam was the rematch maybe it would be better remembered. But as it stands this match is a tragedy, like Hokuto got a bit lucky last time but now Kandori has her all figured out and isn't going to lose again. The crying from the AJW wrestlers on the outside as Hokuto is getting beaten is really gutting. Great performances in a match I'm not sure I really wanted to see. Even Aja looks concerned! This is definitely going to get consideration. While I agree the DreamSlam match is better, this is still really good. Kandori busting Hokuto's lip open in the beginning pretty much says it all. And despite not being as violent or bloody as the DreamSlam match, I like how brutal this match is just with how stiff all of the punches are. And while this isn't exactly a one-sided thrashing, you definitely get the impression Kandori is much more prepared and has an answer for everything Hokuto throws at her. Locking on a choke right after Hokuto thinks she has her beat really drives that home.
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Post by elliott on Oct 1, 2018 19:22:06 GMT -5
Rewatched this and loved it. This is a lot tighter and more simplistic than the DreamSlam match but still manages to be epic in scope and brutality. The punches here are beyond insane. Not just the punches to the face, but the body shots from both women are nuts and really unique. I keep calling Shinobu Kandori the female Brock, but she's Brock if Brock wrestled like Fujiwara. Her big performances stand up to anyone else's in wrestling history. Her realistic selling absolutely stands out within her style and within wrestling in general. She has really unique and brutal offense and that legit peak Maeda aura of just the baddest motherfucker around. This rivalry was just the best. They made Aja Kong cry.
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Post by elliott on Apr 25, 2020 2:25:49 GMT -5
Bump. Wanted to put this back on people's radar. Should have done better than 392nd.
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Post by KB8 on Oct 2, 2020 16:18:17 GMT -5
So I watched this for the first time there and thought it was unbelievable. Like, this is about as close to "cinema" as I think I've ever seen in a wrestling match (excluding stuff like the Boneyard match that has all the bells and whistles of actual cinema) and the more I think about it the more it feels like it'll land stupid high on my list next year.
The story they told in this might be my favourite in any match ever and I thought both women were exceptional from start to finish. The double KO punch from Dreamslam being used at the very start here might be a touch on the nose for some, but I'm never likely to complain about anybody punching each other dead in the face so for me it was yet another perfect opening from them. This time Kandori coming out ahead while Hokuta is left spitting teeth and blood really set the table for the rest of the match. This was all about Kandori out to even the score, to prove she's the one and only unfuckwithable presence in joshi, and she wants to make Hokuto's life a misery as she does it. Hokuto probably has more pride than sense and like at Dreamslam you wonder if Kandori will need to kill her just to keep her down. You get the sense Hokuto would rather go out that way as well. No matter what she keeps coming, no matter how much punishment, no matter what Kandori does to her she continually finds an answer from somewhere, and as determined as Kandori is to prove she's the baddest, Hokuto is equally determined to prove that title should be hers. She's the Dangerous Queen, fer cripes! Even after that first KO punch where her lights are out, she manages to get up and about take Kandori's jaw off with a spin kick, and I loved her being super aggressive and going to the gutwrench powerbombs from there. Last time she took it to the floor early on and lost six gallons of blood, so why not go for the kill early? At points it feels like Kandori is almost fucking with Hokuto and I loved all the little fake-outs early on, drawing Hokuto into that slap exchange just so she could yank her into the Fujiwara armbar. Then of course she lets her up with a wag of the finger. "Not like that. I'm not finished yet." I don't know if there was some backstory with Kandori's knee being wrapped but Hokuto is obviously smart to go after it...then Kandori just demoralises her by reversing a kneebar into a half crab and Hokuto is left scrambling to the ropes (and nobody scrambles to the ropes like Hokuto).
The longer it goes the more Hokuto withstands, and in turn the more she dishes out in response. At a certain point you need to question whether Kandori's strategy is a viable one because Hokuto clearly isn't going away, and the longer she messes around the more chance there is of Hokuto beating her again. The northern lights bomb on the floor was insane and Kandori sold it like it about collapsed her lung. At that point it looks like Kandori might've made a mistake and maybe should've tapped Hokuto with the armbar when she had the chance, but then she comes back with the top rope tiger driver and that bit about needing to kill Hokuto to keep her down seems like it might've come true. Honestly, the selling from both of them for those two bombs was easily as good as anything in your lauded All Japan classics. Kandori realising she probably needs to stop pissing about and finally going to the kneebar felt like a huge moment, particularly as I'm assuming this was one of the many points in Hokuto's career where her knee(s) were battered to hell. Up until now Kandori never tried to exploit that taped up knee, nor did she bother going back to the armbar even though it nearly ripped Hokuto's arm out back in April. It wouldn't have been as easy as "go after the arm or knee and it's a win" because you knew Hokuto would never have allowed it to BE easy, but there were clearly bullseyes to be drawn and Kandori ignored all of them until that point. I suppose that in itself was a victory for Hokuto, that Kandori had to exploit an injury to prove her point. Not that it would've made Hokuto feel any better considering she wound up getting her nose punched through her brain. The most emphatic uppercut you ever did see.
Incredible match, totally unique in not just all of joshi but wrestling in general. The camera shots of the AJW women in tears as Hokuto faces down the inevitable felt like it managed to capture some real emotion and didn't come across as forced at all. She gave everything she had, went toe-to-toe with the Terminator, threw gut shot for gut shot, punch for punch, but in the end beating Kandori twice is a mountain too high for her to climb. Can't speak highly enough about both women's performance. I don't want to be that guy who's giving it "WELL, I think the less-talked about match is BETTER than the more famous one," because honestly I'm not sure I actually believe that, but I know I was captivated by this in a way I've never been by Dreamslam, as amazing as that one is. Fuck me this was so good. Best thing I've watched in ages.
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Post by elliott on Oct 2, 2020 17:45:21 GMT -5
I wish DreamRush to Queendom Hokuto lasted forever
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Post by KB8 on Oct 2, 2020 18:11:01 GMT -5
I've come around on her big time the last couple weeks. It's not that I ever disliked her or anything, it was more that I was sort of apathetic in some ways, which was probably an extension of my apathy for the style. But having immersed myself in 90s joshi recently, watching her in chunks, man she could be fucking great. I still prefer Kandori as my #1 seller in joshi, but Hokuto is a close second and I don't think anyone goes out on their shield better than her. I wasn't really intending to rewatch Queendom but I've gone through every other bit of Hokuto/Kandori there is so I might as well revisit that final arc.
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Post by makaiclub on Mar 5, 2021 17:02:01 GMT -5
I'm in the crowd that thinks this is the better match. Although I probably should watch the Dreamslam match to confirm that thought.
This had everything. Incredible emotional drama with LCO, Aja Kong and Suzuka Minami helplessly watching as Kandori picks apart and destroys Hokuto, who isn't giving up the futile fight, insane violence that had purpose and hate behind it and great skill and selling. I think the match story can be summed up in some way by the opening bits. Kandori busted Hokuto’s mouth with her second punch of the match, planting Hokuto on the mat, during the opening exchanges. This reignites the hateful flair that made their first match so special as well as putting Hokuto immediately on the backfoot of which she isn't able to recover from. Kandori carries herself like a machine who toys with Hokuto initially, baiting Hokuto into a Fujiwara only to let it go because it was too easy but as the match carries on with Hokuto, one, refusing to go down repeatedly, and two, had some pivotal moments such as hitting a Northern Lights bomb on the outside, which could've been the catalyst for a potential comeback. This meant Kandori got more malicious and violent towards the end in order to get her win back. Kandori is an absolute beast and had clear superiority over Hokuto, but she also sold vulnerability perfectly when it was called on her to do so, making her performance complete. *****
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Post by elliott on Mar 5, 2021 18:10:20 GMT -5
Oh no shit, I re watched this last night and was gonna try and get people riding the Joshi wave to watch it. Awesome match. Not better than DreamSlam but a top 100 match ever for sure
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Post by mvz on Mar 7, 2021 6:55:25 GMT -5
It took me two watches to appreciate this but there is a lot to love: right storytelling, big spots, and lots of drama. Kandori comes off as a killer from the jump. It felt like Hokuto threw the kitchen sink at her and it didn’t help. The selling through this match is top notch and that last upper cut is brutal, great delivery and amazing sell. Definitely a standout match in its own merits.
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Post by elliott on Oct 27, 2021 7:30:11 GMT -5
The DreamSlam 1 match seems poised to make a run at 6/9/95 for the #1 spot one of these years. So I hope to see a big jump of at least one other person vote for the rematch this time around. Everyone has had nothing but praise for this match so far. I see it as an undeniable classic. We gonna show some love for Hokuto vs Kandori Part Round 2 this time??? Cap, I'm kinda surprised you're not way higher on this one. Seems like you're kind of match with two utter badasses who fucking hate each other just slugging it out big time.
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Post by Cap on Oct 27, 2021 7:38:59 GMT -5
I'm going to put this on my watch list, maybe this weekend. I haven't watched it for quite a while. There is definitely a chance I was artificially low (but still pretty high) on it because I was comparing it to dreamslam
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