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Post by elliott on Dec 18, 2017 21:42:17 GMT -5
Jumbo Tsuruta vs Mitsuharu Misawa (AJPW - 6/8/1990)
Not sure what to say about this. One of the most famous matches ever that I'm sure everyone has seen. No idea what to say about it. You're either voting for it or you aren't. I want to see matches like this used to compare to lesser known great matches. How does Jumbo vs Misawa stack up from a work perspective to some random indy match from 2004.
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Post by Cap on Jan 3, 2018 17:22:50 GMT -5
Second
The lesser of their two matches from the year in my book, but still a really really good match. I wouldn't be surprised to see people disagree with me. I agree that it would be fun to put this feud up against some other things from 2000s, especially as a set of matches that accomplished something somewhat profound for both their careers (and a whole section of wrestling as a whole). The clear dynamics here make the match. Everything is tight early. the action builds well. Both men play their parts. This is just a great match with a good shot at being on my list and a good shot at making the overall 100 I think.
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Post by fxnj on Jan 5, 2018 22:23:43 GMT -5
Thirded. That moment before Misawa's entrance is still one of the hottest crowds I've ever. Misawa gives easily the performance of his career to this point and Jumbo is incredible selling for him and playing the arrogant vet who refuses to take his opponent seriously until it's too late. The ending with Misawa being hoisted on the shoulders of Kawada and Kobashi while the commentator declares it the beginning of a new era might be most beautiful moment I've ever seen in a wrestling. Should probably write more about this later as I think it deserves top 10 consideration.
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Post by superstarsleeze on Jul 29, 2018 19:10:13 GMT -5
I think based on work it is great but would miss the cut but historically you could claim this is the most important match in Japanese wrestling history which may elevate it onto the list.
Jumbo Tsuruta vs Mitsuharu Misawa - AJPW 6/8/90
Battle of generations is one of the oldest stories but I don't know if it was ever told better than Jumbo vs Misawa. I think argument can be made for this as the most important match in history. Launched Misawa into superstardom in turn creating the Kings Road style which along with the NJPW Juniors is probably the strongest influence on today's wrestling worldwide.
The match itself tells the great story of youthful resilience and elderly stubbornness. I love the beginning because Jumbo is not taking Misawa lightly he wants to beat as quickly as possible trying the high knee and back drop driver. A quick victory would be more damaging and embarrassing to Misawa than toying with him. Great psychology!
The problem is Misawa is no chump so he can thwart these attempts and the take to air. He hits multiple dives and an elbow that rocks Jumbo. This is Misawa I'm here to play and I won't go quietly.
They settle into more customary All Japan stuff the surfboard, ab stretch and slaps on rope breaks. It does meander. Jumbo runs through his offense and the idea is that the beginning established Misawa as a threat now can he take Jumbos best shot and keep on ticking. Such as butterfly duplex, which put away Jack Brisco. As the Match as settled down so has Jumbos intensity. He is taking his foot off the gas pedal and is content just throwing him up the air. The second time he gets caught with a dropkick. Surprising how aerial Misawa is but shouldn't be the announcers are calling him Tiger Mask still. By being so aerial it makes for more contrasting styles than mid 90s Misawa would. Misawa gets a frogsplash for two but then gets HOTSHOTTED! Funny seeing Jumbo do the move. Now Jumbo pours it on STIFF lariats, knees, powerbombs and piledrivers. Establishing the youthful resilience and the extended comeback which would be Misawas calling card.
Culminating in that vicious high knee from the top and just when Misawa seems out it is his ELBOW that saves the day. I don't know when Misawas Elbow became MISAWAS ELBOW but it is funny how in both the Six-Man and here it is a game changer. Jumbo sells it like death and rolls out. Big dive to the floor. Misawa feels like he is ushering in a new era.
Misawa goes for a German but settles for flooring him with a spin wheel kick. That kick was way better in 1990. Jumbo finally has some defense for the aerial moves when he gets his knees up in the frogsplash. Jumbo starts clobbering him with stiff lariats. No finesse trying to blast his way through. Back drop driver but Misawa kicks off ropes and Jumbos head hits first. Great selling!
It is funny Misawa did all those fancy moves but what kept him in this match was those head rocking elbows. Fancy moves almost cost him the match. Gets that German but no on Tiger Driver. Jumbo gets high knee but hurts himself playing Misawas game of elbows and aerial dropkicking the ropes. Which was cool basically Misawa can play Jumbos game and add stuff but the Old Dog can't play the new kids game. The finish makes little sense other than they wanted Misawa to win in a clean finish but not too decisively. ****1/2
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Post by dkuchler31096 on Sept 8, 2020 0:29:10 GMT -5
Misawa is a true star of this match as the crowd just gravitated to him full stop. He has such a grace and finesse about him yet can be brutal at times. And Jumbo feels like the ultimate boss villain. Loved the timing of the finish, I think they peaked at the right time. Though I wish it was an Emerald Flowsion that got em but this is still one of the most important matches in Japanese wrestling history ****3/4
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Post by tetsujin on Dec 13, 2021 4:00:21 GMT -5
One of the most important matches ever for sure, but as a actual match I don't love it as much as others and prefer the september rematch. The crowd was with Misawa even before the entrances started, and their crazy reaction to the finish is only second to Misawa's own reaction. One of the most special moments in puro history, definitely.
I think this was a bit longer than needed, considering Misawa wasn't gonna win decisively they could've make the actual finishing spot earlier and the shock value would've still be there. I liked the story of Jumbo learning to counter Misawa's flashy offense but their dynamic together gets more polished in the following matches.
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Post by makaiclub on Feb 26, 2022 16:07:50 GMT -5
Hot crowd from the start. As the legend goes, Baba changed the result once he heard the crowd’s chants of Misawa and his pre show merch sales, so this crowd was full pro-Misawa. Jumbo was popular, amazingly. The match started off pretty heavy with Jumbo clubbing Misawa with some brutal offence but Misawa outsmarts him and gets the better of him, before catching him with his elbow, followed up by a pescado. Misawa slapping Jumbo after the stalemate spots was pretty cool, Jumbo seems rather stunted but he kept his composure which is classic Jumbo. The best part of the match was Jumbo beating down and working over Misawa for me. The spot where Misawa went for a cross body only for Jumbo to catch him and drop him on the rope was both visually nasty and amazing, as was the rest of the work on the neck of Misawa. Misawa fighting from beneath was good, he sold well and made great use of his offence whenever he could. The crowd was totally on Misawa’s side, being so loud so it was easy to rally behind him. Everytime Misawa would kick out of Jumbo’s moves, the crowd would stamp their feet on the floor, making rumbling noises, adding to the atmosphere. Misawa blocking the backhold driver by pushing off the ropes and stunning Jumbo’s momentum of the hold was great and an awesome transition to the closing third. The finish wasn’t particularly great but it did its job, it built suspense and that’s all you can ask for. Great match - history making. ****1/4
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Post by puropotsy on Mar 1, 2023 21:00:42 GMT -5
This match is transcendent. Jumbo shows how to put someone over. Make you and your opponent look unbeatable and then lose. Misawa brings his full self as well. From the moment that Jumbo hit the knee-strike off the top it was on. The ending with Jumbo catching Misawa with the elbow when he came off the ropes was amazing, leading into a series of pin attempts. Top notch stuff.
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