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Post by philschneider on May 25, 2018 19:30:50 GMT -5
My god what a incredible all time great brawl. Honestly the striking in this match is up there with Lawler vs. Mantel and Satanico vs. Chicana for the best stuff I have ever seen. It is a really fun dynamic with Valentine hitting harder and Piper hitting faster. There is this great moment early in the match where Valentine lands some clubbing forearms and forces Piper out of the ring, but before Valentine can get a breath Piper bounds back in and unloads with cat quick flurry that sends Valentine reeling. There is another moment where Valentine covers up against the ropes and Piper just unloads a thousand punch combination of body and headshots. I loved how dirty Piper was in this match, he would gouge at the eyes, punch the ear, karate thrust the throat, bite, he was so great at being a babyface and the most low down streetfighter ever. Piper comes in with a bad ear, and things really get vicious when Valentine starts working it over, he posts Piper right on the ear, and then grinds it against the bolt connecting the post to the ring. Then the match is Valentine mauling the ear and Piper selling vertigo and firing back. Both guys are bleeding and firing shots back and forth. Finish was just brutal, Piper snaps and grabs the barrier rope and wraps it around Valentine's throat, even working the rope back and forth to give Valentine a rope burn on his neck, he hangs him and Greg starts foaming at the mouth in a really gross way. The locker room empties to prevent a murder, and Piper is in the ring screaming at Valentine to keep fighting. What a discovery, this was an absolute classic war, with this and the Dog Collar Starrcade match, this looks like an all time legendary pairing. Must watch match, and one of the best brawls I can remember.
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Post by Cap on May 27, 2018 15:41:31 GMT -5
I literally just logged on as soon as I finished this match to nominate it. An enthusiastic SECOND.
This is fucking incredible.
So my buddy text me today and said to get on this asap. I text him back about 1/3rd of the way through it and said, "man, if someone watched this in a vacuum they would think piper was a born babyface" He was so charismatic and plays the crowd as he puts the beat-down on Valentine. The Charlotte crowd is eating it up. They really escalate the violence as they go from Piper throwing hands early to the ear work, to eye gouging to the barrier rope being used in an attempted murder. At the end of the match I text him again and said, "Never mind. He tried to cut Valentine's head off". 80s Brawls that include potential homicide are always the best.
This is going to get a rewatch in the coming days, but this is pretty elite stuff. Everyone needs to give this one a watch as soon as they can.
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Post by rickyjackson on Jun 3, 2018 0:13:31 GMT -5
Third
Amazing match. Such a great brawl. Please God let there be more matches like this ready to surface on the Network
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Post by elliott on Jun 3, 2018 14:18:44 GMT -5
Hot damn. I need to see this. Is it only on the network?
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Post by elliott on Jun 5, 2018 22:29:00 GMT -5
Asking again, this is only on the network, correct? Can that be changed?
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Post by Cap on Aug 6, 2018 19:57:15 GMT -5
From my rewatch project on 6/26/2018 Roddy Piper vs Greg Valentine (7/9/1983) Current Rank: 68 Trending: Down I am really glad I threw this match in with this lot. It may be 35 years old, but it is getting some recency bias from me. I still come down on the side of t his being an absolute classic match, certainly belonging in the same conversation with the best brawls of the decade, but I think it will trend downward as at least two matches here (and plenty not discussed in this endless post) jump it. The energy and violence are excellent. The finish is top shelf, but when picking knits it doesn’t quite achieve the same levels of awe-inspiring greatness as many matches currently rated below it. That said, if you know anyone who remains stubborn in their belief that Piper was little more than a good talker, show them walking tall Piper here getting a room full of North Carolinians to cheer on attempted murder. There isn’t a jury in the state that would have convicted him if he succeeded either. Full Post Can Be Found Here: gweproject.freeforums.net/thread/657/caps-watching-project-reports#ixzz5NRvxEoYc
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Post by KB8 on Dec 5, 2018 14:11:54 GMT -5
Stone cold lock.
What a dirty, violent belter of a pro-wrestling match. I don't know if it was better than the dog collar match but it somehow might've been nastier, and bear in mind we're talking about a match where someone is whipped in the ear repeatedly with a rusty chain. Piper was unbelievable in this. It might be his very best performance. Both guys' strikes were amazing, but Piper was as vicious as anybody I've ever seen, throwing amazing body shots, jab combos, clawing at Valentine's face, his all-time great eye poke, headbutts, all of it. Valentine wasn't exactly straight-laced, because this was a fight and you don't throw clubs to the chest like that in a gentleman's contest, but once or twice he did show his wrestling chops. He wasn't downright feral at least, which I suppose was one thing he had over Piper, and at one point he hit one of the best gut busters I've ever seen. He's rougher than a stuntman's knee and tough as stewed skunk, but Piper is a wild street brawler on methamphetamines and that'll put a fear in even the hardiest of men. Valentine taking over by going to the ear ruled and obviously ear workover was amazing. There was an awesome bit where Greg throws him ear-first into the ring post and then starts mashing the ear up against the steel. Lots of great little teased comebacks as Piper staggers around trying to fire back with flurries of punches and bites and eye gouges. He's near dead on his feet in the corner and Greg is blasting away on him, but then Piper starts ducking and moving and all at once he's in the groove again, Greg missing five, six, seven swings in a row as Piper is evading everything, the crowd going full on apeshit when he hits back. We get the revenge posting and Valentine blade job and naturally Piper bites the cut, but then he took it a step further and tried to Tyson his ear off. There are parts where they're rolling about on the mat sticking fingers in eyes and ripping hair and trying to throttle each other, just pure, visceral hatred. And then there's the finish which was basically attempted murder. Piper trying to saw Valentine's fucking head off with a rope was crazy enough, but the image of Greg frothing at the mouth as Piper hangs him over the top rope was borderline disturbing. Folk are trying to tear Piper away and Roddy will not have it. He's going to kill this man if it's the last thing he does. Holy shit this was something else.
Did you ever manage to watch this, elliot? Parts of it were Puerto Rico level gruesome so there's no way you don't dig it.
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Post by microstatistics on Feb 3, 2019 21:26:35 GMT -5
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Post by shodate on Nov 21, 2019 20:04:09 GMT -5
Bare knuckles boxing meets 80s Southern revenge brawl with Puerto Rico levels of violence. The match had a clear face/heel dynamic with some subtle character work. Piper was extra aggressive throughout while Greg mainly focused on the ear, since this was after the famous ear angle. Loved how Piper was out for blood. Piper wailing on Valentine with some lightning fast combos of thousands of reckless punches and strikes after cornering him ruled. Loved the dirty biting and the throat punch that Valentine sold like suffocation. Piper mixing in some violent kneelifts and taking Valentine’s head off was great pure violence. Match had tremendous urgency and intensity. It escalated when Valentine, sensing the danger, went after the ear methodically. Loved the focus with which he went on that ear and almost swaying it ruled. The methodical vs aggressive boxing dynamic ruled, too. Also, Piper’s stumbling selling was a great little detail. Them just slugging it out like pure boxing at one point was awesome. Loved how Piper started targeting the throat like a beast. The finish was as violent as wrestling gets, with Piper using the rope to try and cut Valentine’s throat and hang him. Valentine struggling like a shark getting killed ruled. The suffocating and foaming gave the bout an extra aura of realism and violence. As far as Southern brawls go, this is top notch with them changing the structure to UWF meets Puerto Rico with punches. Also, the match had tremendous heat. One of the best brawls of the 80s.
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Post by bossrock on Nov 29, 2019 7:23:54 GMT -5
This was really good but not nearly as violent as I was expecting. I liked the attacks on the ear and the finish was memorable, but the dog collar match kicks everything up to 11.
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Post by mvz on Mar 26, 2021 3:23:33 GMT -5
Watched this for the first time in a while and it was hitting the right buttons for me. I am a Piper fan and this was a fantastic babyface performance. Hitting great combos and spitting on Valentine once he’s knocked Valentine to the outside. Then when Valentine knocks him out he is right up and after him. When Valentine goes after his ear he sells the pain and disorientation. Valentine is great here, alternating between some begging off and some viciousness, really nasty stuff by the ring post. I actually forgot about the attempted murder at the end, I remembered this was nasty but it was wilder than I remember. I am pretty sure this will be in the middle of my list.
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Post by puropotsy on Mar 21, 2023 20:20:14 GMT -5
These two were born to wrestle each other. And probably wrestle everyone else too but especially each other. Piper’s early flurry of punches gets us off to a great start. They brawl all over the ring and ringside and of course Valentine works Piper’s ear. The match finishes with Piper wrapping a thin rope from the ringside barrier around Valentine’s neck and pulling it back and forth like he’s trying to start a fire. Brutality-laced finish to a heated bout.
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Post by elliott on Sept 2, 2023 19:11:25 GMT -5
Asking again, this is only on the network, correct? Can that be changed? Obviously I've seen this since 2018 and it's one of the best matches ever.
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Post by 4pillars on Jan 15, 2024 11:03:04 GMT -5
If someone called this better than their Dog Collar match, I wouldn’t blame them and might actually agree. One of the most heated brawls I’ve seen from 83, let alone in the US. If Chicana-MS1 didn’t exist this would be my lock for 1983 MOTY. Potentially my favorite Piper babyface performance too.
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Post by [Darren] on Jan 15, 2024 11:50:19 GMT -5
If someone called this better than their Dog Collar match, I wouldn’t blame them and might actually agree. One of the most heated brawls I’ve seen from 83, let alone in the US. If Chicana-MS1 didn’t exist this would be my lock for 1983 MOTY. Potentially my favorite Piper babyface performance too. 83 has a lot of great matches. If I’m watching Lawler/Dundee I say it’s that match but I never remember it as fondly as I do in the moment. I don’t know if this match is better than the dog collar match but it’s a lot more fun, if you ask me. Maybe it’s because I have been watching the dog collar match since I was 8 years old and discovered this a couple years ago. I am currently saying Von Erichs v. Freebirds is the MOTY and JYD v. Butch Reed is the greatest hidden gem.
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