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Post by Cap on Dec 4, 2017 19:56:29 GMT -5
Terry Funk vs Harley Race (NWA HW Championship - NWA - 7/1/1977)
What a gem. This was - for me at least - the greatest prize we got from our days with NWA on Demand. If you are like many people who have had trouble understanding what all the fuss was about when it came to Race this match will help you "get it". This is pacy and fluid. It is efficient and captivating. The last fall absolutely solidifies this for me. I wont give anything away for those of you who haven't seen it, but the finish is absolutely brilliant... all time stuff. I imagine this one makes my list comfortably. Really great stuff.
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Post by elliott on Dec 4, 2017 22:04:15 GMT -5
I second this nomination. This is the best Harley Race match I've ever seen. I agree with Cap it was also the best thing I saw on Classics. I would definitely consider this an all time classic match. It is a world title match with two of the toughest guys ever. There's something about the way this is filmed where Funk & Harley just seem BIGGER than they've ever seemed before. I'm not sure this is a lock to make my list, but that really comes down to stylistic preferences. I love a great World Title match, but I'd rather watch a brawl, a shoot style match, a lucha match, a Japanese Interpromotional match, etc. In the realm of World Title matches, this is one of the best. So it is a contender for my list absolutely, but I wouldn't call it a lock. On my very rough draft, I have this at #93.
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Post by philschneider on Jan 4, 2018 12:16:21 GMT -5
This is really a #1 contender for me , and I am not a big Race fan. Just amazing performances by both guys. That third fall was truly mindblowing, with Funk trying to kill Race before he bleeds to death. So good, and makes me so bummed that NWA Classics died before the uploaded the rematch. Fuck you Billy Corgan segundacaida.blogspot.com/2017/02/1977-match-of-year.html
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Post by elliott on Jan 4, 2018 23:21:48 GMT -5
This is really a #1 contender for me , Oh. Whoa. I was blown away by this match when I first watched it. Its on my pre-project rough draft, but it admittedly isn't as clear in my head as basically everything else I've nominated or seconded. I will definitely make rewatching this a priority. I'm wondering, Phil, would you rank this above Lawler/Dudee 12/85? I have that as my top US match ever.
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Post by philschneider on Jan 4, 2018 23:48:39 GMT -5
I really have to rewatch that match, it has been many years. It would be neck and neck for sure. This may have a little recency bias for me, nothing I love more then new unearthed gems, and this arriving from the past unseen for 30 years really resonates with me.
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Post by stunninggrover on Jan 5, 2018 1:44:30 GMT -5
This match between Harley Race and Terry Funk was tremendous. Race was the NWA World Heavyweight Champion. Funk was the former champion and wanted his title back. A great display of mat wrestling by Funk during the early stages of the match. In the third fall, Funk started bleeding. The match lasted nearly 40 minutes. I'm pretty sure this match will be in my top 100.
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Post by tetsujin on Jan 5, 2018 8:03:38 GMT -5
Is this anywhere online? This is one of those matches I've always wanted to see but never had a chance.
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Post by El Mckell on Jan 7, 2018 4:14:15 GMT -5
Is this anywhere online? This is one of those matches I've always wanted to see but never had a chance. link there you go. But yknow you really should've just googled Harley Race Terry Funk
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Post by tetsujin on Jan 10, 2018 20:50:50 GMT -5
I finally watched this, yesterday was the big day. And oh my, it's an extraordinary match. Terry's performance here, once again, is so over the top... His armwork, his fire trying to comeback, his bloody selling, just amazing. I'm not as high with Race being and all-time great worker as others, but I like the guy and he ruled in this too, something that happens a lot when he's more focused on working the mat and striking than when he goes for bombs; great control segments. Loved the ending for every fall, especially that VICIOUS Piledriver at the second one. The final minutes are intense af, with Harley selling the Toehold like a god and Funk bleeding like only the Funker knows. This has possibilities to make my list. ****1/2.
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Post by Cap on Mar 6, 2019 8:21:03 GMT -5
From my rewatch project on 2/6/2019 Terry Funk vs Harley Race (NWA Title – 7/1/1977) Current Rank: 52 Trending: Down-ish The middle of the pack seems like a decent spot for this match, but I think a few matches I have ranked lower are going to leap-frog it. While I like the build and I love the finish, this match lacked just a touch up front that might push it down my list a few spots. The match itself holds up nicely next to the more pacey title matches in this rewatch group and feels like a big deal. Ultimately though, this match is likely to lose ground less because it has flaws and more because other stuff is just standing out to me a little more. Read more: gweproject.freeforums.net/thread/657/caps-watching-project-reports?page=2#ixzz5hOi4WZq3
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Post by superstarsleeze on Mar 15, 2019 18:29:56 GMT -5
To me this is the crown jewel of the Houston footage. I dont care for Harley Race, but not even he could ruin this. This is a masterful performance by Terry Funk and proves why he is one of the greatest of all time.
" The problem here was his [Harley Race] lack of personality and lack of expression" - OJ nailed it. This has become a major hangup I have with Harley in a lot of his matches.
NWA World Heavyweight Champion Harley Race vs Terry Funk - Houston 7/1/77
Holy Grail is an understatement as anything from Terry Funk in the 1970s especially a long traditional NWA Championship bout is a huge prize. Race defeated Terry Funk in Toronto for the World's Championship in Februrary of '77 and now five months later Funk is challenging for the belt.
First Fall: If you watch closely, Funk is reviewing the rules with the ref and makes a specific point about how chopping to throat is illegal but below is not. First move of the match, a chop by Terry Funk! The first 15 minutes focused on matwork. Terry Funk looked great working the arm. The best part was definitely how he set up the arm stretcher by stepping on Harley's face. I dont mean he placed his boot on Harley's face. He put both his feet right on the face of the champion. It was some nasty work. Harley made sure to add some movement. Funk hit not one, but two press slams on Harley. I dont think I have ever seen Funk do that. The first one was a beauty and an emphatic way to regain control. There is 4 minutes of clipping and we come back to Harley working a tight headlock. Very similar to a tight Backlund style one with plenty of wringing. Great struggle from Funk. Funk is able to earn an armbar but quickly loses control to a headscissors. Race is working his holds very well, very tight. Great pressure on the headscissors. Funk stands up with Race draped over his back, but Race maintains the hold and Funk falls forward. Funk hits a couple lefts while in the headscissors and stands up with it and this time gets out. I like how this does not start the Funk immediately instead Funk is still selling so it is Race landing the blows. Race goes for an arm wringers, but Funk starts throwing right-handed chops and eventually Funk breaks Race's clasp and starts to mount a comeback. I really enjoyed Race totally whiffing on a straight left closed fist only for Funk to punch him in the face. I love Funk's reaction to the ref to throw his hands up like he is innocent. Stuff like that makes closed fists feel so much more important. Funk wants the spinning toehold, but cant apply it. Then it is Race with a figure-4 attempt but he cant get it. Funk takes a nasty spill to the floor when Race side-steps him on a criss-cross. Race bring back in the hardway with a vertical suplex. Funk does an excellent job selling the back. Abdominal Stretch gives Race the fall. I have watched thousands of pro wrestling matches and never seen the abdominal stretch earn a fall and now I have seen it twice. Great first fall. It really puts Funk on display. He is so innovative and unpredictable. If that is something you value, then he is your man. Even little things, like how he falls through the ropes on his apron and re-enters the ring feels different. This is the best possible Race as he is toned down not throwing out too much. He is sticking to the fundamentals. He is still a blackhole of charisma but everything looks tight. Race 1-0.
Second Fall: Even though Harley won the first fall. It was not definitive. Funk came back strong in the opening of the second fall. Backing Harley into a corner and slapping him around. This drew the ire of Race. Who charged into a bodyslam. Funk came over, but Race butted him in the abdomen. Great transition. Race went back to work on the back as that is how he won the first fall. Funk eventually wrestled a headlock on Race. They break free and Race wants an abdominal stretch, but Funk gets a backslide for two. Funk urgently pounces and hits a piledriver for three. This has been the Terry Funk show. Great individual performance. Characteristically short second fall. Tied 1-1.
Third Fall: Excellent fall, ***** stuff here. Harley decides that he wants to make this match a battle of fisticuffs. He is hitting harder than in the Wahoo match. Funk blasts him back! Atomic Drop! 1-2-NO! Both feet over the ropes. Dont leave anything to chance. Funk lays a clever trap. He takes a knee over by the ropes. Baiting Race to come over and Funk picks the ankle. SPINNING TOEHOLD! Race starts punching him in the face. He keeps punching until he busts Funk wide open. Great bladejob. This was great drama. It was Funk's Spinning Toehold vs. Race working the cut. I loved the spot where Race hits a kneedrop on the cut, but comes up clutching his bad knee. Funk has one last gasp in the Spinning Toehold, but Harley grabs him by the hair Funk tries to block the left hand, but Harley breaks free and starts taking wicked shots to the cut. Funk gradually loses his strength each punch taking more of him until he finally succumbs to collapse, bloody and convulsing he takes a wild swing at the ref who calls for a blood stoppage because he knows Funk has lost it. Wow! Damn great finish to set up a big time rematch. Race starts headbutting Funk in the cut while announcer calls for a doctor. Wild!
Little bit of overhype calling this the greatest NWA Championship of all time aside, this match is fantastic and a terrific Terry Funk performance. So many little touches that are unique to Funk and so many innovative spots that I dont think have been seen since 1977 and were seen before. The third fall was high drama and you always want to peak at the finish and these two did just that. ****3/4
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Post by jetlag on Apr 27, 2019 3:06:57 GMT -5
I think Race is merely good and can be kind of a slug, but there's no limits to what Terry Funk in the 70s could do. His aggressive, rough and yet innovative matwork in the first fall was just brilliant pro wrestling. Constantly stepping on and twisting Race's face, while still wringing the hell out of his arm. Funk both on offense and defense always kept the match focussed and building, and altough they kind of lost track in the last third of the 1st fall, they get back to it nicely when Funk takes a huge bump to the outside. This of course leads to a bunch of drama centered around Funk's back, which Race does a nice job going after. The work around the arm/back here is so nice that I'm almost a little sour that it ended up being an afterthought, but I'm not complaining about a match this good. Quick, heated 2nd fall leads to the blood drenched epic 3rd centered around Terry's Spinning Toe Hold. Terry came across like the most determined motherfucker on the planet and the punches were great. He also flat kicked Race in the face at one point. Race is mostly fine throughout this but the part I most dug was him repeatedly headbutting a blood Terry while laid out helplessly on his bad leg.
This match had impossible hype behind it. I didn't think it was a GOAT contender or something that told anything new but still a great title match that had all the trademarks. Great matwork, drama, blood, build, anything you want. The best Race match I've ever seen and another to add to the Funk resume.
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Post by dkuchler31096 on Jun 9, 2019 23:35:33 GMT -5
I thought this match was a bit of a drag but still enjoyable to see terry funk in his prime. Funk was certainly the aggressor here but Race had his moments where he shined. The second fall was my favorite because of how unpredictable it was. Great drama in the third fall with the spinning toe hold but the finish sort of fell flat for me. ****
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Post by shodate on Nov 21, 2019 20:03:33 GMT -5
Marvelous rugged traditional 2/3 falls heavyweight title bout. The 1st fall with Funk easily bulldozing Race in short bursts while deliberately grounding him down and the armwork strategy was brilliant. The armwork was fantastic throughout. All the wringing of the arm and Funk’s innovative holds grinding down Race’s arm, whilst crushing his skull and equilibrium was strategic, realistic, and violent work. Race checking his equilibrium as if he went deaf was a cool touch. The clipping missed a major transition, but I thought Race’s headlock work was solid throughout. Funk did some unique escapes and was constantly struggling to escape and get the blood flowing to his head. Him reaching up Race’s body and later rag-dolling him with slams were tremendous spots. Race taking advantage of Funk getting too intense and Funk getting crushed on the outside was a solid transition. Funk’s subtle back selling ruled. Loved the awesome strike exchange sections in the 2nd fall, with Race cheap-shotting Funk leading to Funk scrambling him with those huge awesome punches and violent chops. Also loved how Race got desperate and went down like a tree falling from those chops. Funk torqueing away at the leg while Race tried to get the blood flowing in it as he punched Funk continuously in the eye was pretty epic. Loved the finish as Funk’s selling of bleeding from the eye and almost going blind was awesome. Him struggling to attack and trying to reach Race but falling due to the eye issues ruled. Funk’s blood drenched selling was amazing. It made the stoppage seem realistic. Great title bout with everything from blood to heat, tremendous build, etc. Funk in the 70s was such a unique great worker.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2020 11:04:07 GMT -5
Great stuff, and another showcase of why Terry Funk is the best US wrestler ever imo. I fudged my ballot by putting Andre/Race instead of this one for best Houston match, ffs
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