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Post by bossrock on Jan 14, 2022 18:17:45 GMT -5
Okada was a slam dunk and got the highest average of anyone since Kobashi. I initially supported Crockett going in, but reading Death of WCW has me thinking otherwise.
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Post by elliott on Jan 14, 2022 18:52:19 GMT -5
Sputnik Monroe not making it is insane.
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Post by microstatistics on Feb 3, 2022 1:07:00 GMT -5
Okada seemed a no-brainer at this point regardless of whether you like his style or not.
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Post by nintendologic on Dec 9, 2022 7:02:36 GMT -5
This year's class has been announced. The Holy Demon Army, Mistico, Kota Ibushi, Tetsuya Naito, Los Villanos, and Mark Rocco were voted in and promoters Lou Daro and Johnny Doyle were auto-inducted. The rule against multiple inductees was dropped, so a bunch of tag teams where one member was already in like the HDA, the Briscos, and the British Bulldogs were on the ballot for the first time.
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Post by elliott on Dec 9, 2022 11:48:51 GMT -5
I can't believe Dave looked at all of the problems and potential tweaks to the WON HOF and his solution was to include tag teams and then he put the New Age Outlaws on the first list of nominees.
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Post by elliott on Oct 9, 2023 18:49:08 GMT -5
New WON HOF ballot
This is our ballot for the 2023 Hall of Fame. This ballot is being sent out to major wrestling stars, past and present, major management figures in the industry, writers and historians. If you are getting this, you are being asked your opinion on who should be inducted into this year's Hall of Fame class. The criteria for the Hall of Fame is a combination of drawing power, being a great in-ring performer or excelling in ones field in pro wrestling, as well as having historical significance in a positive manner. A candidate should either have something to offer in all three categories, or be someone so outstanding in one or two of those categories that they deserve inclusion. The names listed below are those under consideration for this year. To be eligible, a performer must have reached their 35th birthday and completed ten years since their debut as a full-time performer, or be someone who has been a full-time pro wrestler for at least 15 years. Longevity should be a prime consideration rather than a hot two or three year run, unless someone is so significant as a trend-setter or a historical figure in the business, or valuable to the industry, that they need to be included. However, just longevity without being either a long-term main eventer, a top draw and/or a top caliber in-ring performer should be seen as relatively meaningless.
There are more changes in the rules this year largely because the historical U.S. & Canada category is so full of viable candidates. This year what we are doing is each category is separate and the number of votes in a category allowed will be one in every three people on the ballot, so each category will have a different number. The idea is categories with fewer balloters won't be easier to get in, and categories with a lot of balloters won't be so difficult that it causes a logjam. It's an experiment that I think will make the process better.
The election is broken down into a number of categories. You should check each category for wrestlers that you feel you are familiar enough with based on geography that you've either traveled or are familiar with, and based on the time you have followed pro wrestling. You do not have to vote for a wrestler in every category you've checked. The ballot is also broken down to wrestlers and those who are not pro wrestlers but have been valuable parts of the industry. You can pick as few as zero in categories if you don't believe anyone on this list deserves inclusion or you can skip voting in categories that you don't believe you are familiar enough with to vote in. All responses are confidential. There is nothing to worry about politically about any involvement in this process. Your selections will not be revealed unless you choose to do so yourself.
Anyone who receives mention on 60% of the ballots from the geographical region and time frame (broken down as Continental United States & Canada; Mexico; Japan; and the rest of the world) will be added to the Hall of Fame in the class of 2023.
If you are unfamiliar with any of the candidates due to geography or having never seen them, that is fine. Ballots are sent to many people from all over the world and from different wrestling cultures so that everyone has as fair a shot as possible.
The breakdown for modern and historical performers is 30 years ago, or 1993. So if the last year the person was a headliner, or was a key figure in the industry, was prior to 1993, they would be in the historical class.
All performers who receive mention on 10% to 59.9% of the ballots from their geographical region or era will remain on the ballot for consideration next year. All those who receive less than 10% of the vote will be dropped from next year's ballot. They can return in two years based on if there is significant feedback from voters who say they will vote for them. This is mostly for wrestlers who are still active who may improve their career legacy, but can be for retired wrestlers if voters believe they should be put on or returned to the ballot. In addition, in following the lead of the baseball Hall of Fame, which is the model here, we have a 15-year-rule. The following candidates have been on the ballot since 2008. In baseball, this would be their last year of eligibility. Here, if they don't get at least 50% of the votes in this year's election they will be removed from the ballot. If they are modern candidates, they can be brought back in the historical performers era in two years if it is more than 30 years since their career as a Hall Fame level performer is up.
The following candidates will be dropped from next year's ballot unless they are elected in or garner 50% of the vote:
Big Daddy Kendo Nagasaki Jackie Pallo Sgt. Slaughter
HISTORICAL PERFORMERS ERA (eight maximum)
Ole Anderson Bob Armstrong Tully Blanchard & Arn Anderson w/J.J. Dillon Jack & Jerry Brisco British Bulldogs (Dynamite Kid & Davey Boy Smith) June Byers Wild Bull Curry Junkyard Dog Cowboy Bob Ellis Pampero Firpo Black Gordman & Great Goliath Archie "Mongolian Stomper" Gouldie Hart Foundation (Bret Hart & Jim Neidhart) Sputnik Monroe Dusty Rhodes & Dick Murdoch Argentina Rocca & Miguel Perez Johnny Rougeau Iron Sheik Tiger Jeet Singh Sgt. Slaughter Ricky Steamboat & Jay Youngblood Mad Dog & Butcher Vachon Von Brauners & Saul Weingeroff Kevin & Kerry & David Von Erich
MODERN PERFORMERS IN U.S/CANADA (five maximum)
Mark & Jay Briscoe Young Bucks Edge Bill Goldberg Matt & Jeff Hardy Becky Lynch Jon Moxley Kevin Nash & Scott Hall Paul Orndorff Randy Orton Seth Rollins C.M. Punk Roman Reigns Trish Stratus Rick & Scott Steiner
JAPAN (three maximum)
The Beauty Pair (Jackie Sato & Maki Ueda) Cima Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan Yoshiaki Fujiwara Hayabusa Antonio Inoki & Seiji Sakaguchi Tomohiro Ishii Meiko Satomura Shingo Takagi Manami Toyota & Toshiyo Yamada
MEXICO (three maximum)
Angel Blanco & Dr.Wagner Sangre Chicana Los Hermanos Dinamita (Cien Caras & Mascara Ano 2000 & Universo 2000) Dorrell Dixon Pirata Morgan Blue Panther El Hijo del Santo & Octagon La Parka AAA Huracan Ramirez
EUROPE/AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND/PACIFIC ISLANDS/AFRICA (four maximum)
Spyros Arion Big Daddy Dominic DeNucci Billy Joyce George Kidd Killer Karl Kox Mike Marino Kendo Nagasaki Jackie Pallo The Royal Brothers (Bert Royal & Vic Faulkner) Johnny Saint Adrian Street Jose Tarres Otto Wanz
NON-WRESTLERS (six maximum)
Dave Brown (U.S. & Canada modern) Bobby Bruns (Japan) Bob Caudle (U.S. & Canada historical) Bobby Davis (U.S. & Canada historical) Joe Higuchi (Japan) Jim Johnston (U.S. & Canada modern) Larry Matysik (U.S.& Canada historical) Rossy Ogawa (Japan) Reggie Parks (U.S. & Canada modern) Morris Sigel (U.S. & Canada historical) Tony Schiavone (U.S. & Canada modern) George Scott (U.S. & Canada historical) Sanshiro Takagi (Japan) Mike Tenay (U.S. & Canada modern) Ted Turner (U.S. & Canada modern) Roy Welch (U.S. & Canada historical) Stanley Weston (U.S. & Canada historical) Grand Wizard (U.S & Canada historical) James Melby (U.S & Canada historical)
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Post by kas on Oct 10, 2023 8:19:58 GMT -5
For Modern Performers: The Young Bucks, Goldberg, and Nash & Hall have to be slam dunks. The last two are a toss-up between Becky Lynch, Moxley, Roman, and Punk. The Briscoes could make it but that's a more subjective pick than the other four cause it probably comes entirely down to ring-work.
Japan: Beauty Pair and Fujiwara should be in already, and the sad thing is they might not make it this year. I don't know enough about Inoki & Sakaguchi so I won't comment on them, but CIMA or Shingo is probably the best pick for number 3.
I don't know enough about the other categories but I'm surprised Ole, the Von Erichs, Blue Panther, and Pirata Morgan aren't in i.
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Post by elliott on Oct 10, 2023 9:37:06 GMT -5
Nash & Hall aren't slam dunks. Nash is a better candidate on his own and even then is a bad candidate. These guys shouldn't be in the HOF For modern performers, I'd vote for Becky, Roman & probably Punk. Goldberg has always been someone I'm on the fence about. He SHOULD'VE been a slam dunk but WCW was a stupid stupid company. I'd vote for Ole as a performer + booker. The Von Erich's are weird because I'd rather just vote for Kerry than them as a trio. Tully & Arn w/JJ, Hart Foundation & the British Bulldogs are awful candidates & if anyone votes for them but not Dusty & Dick or Rocca & Perez or Gordman & Goliath then he shouldn't let them vote anymore. Fujiwara will probably never get in and neither will JYD. Hopefully Sputnik can break through.
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Post by nintendologic on Nov 17, 2023 9:05:58 GMT -5
This year's class: - Argentina Rocca & Miguel Perez
- The Beauty Pair (Jackie Sato & Maki Ueda)
- Sgt. Slaughter
- Jack & Jerry Brisco
- Tomohiro Ishii
- Blue Panther
- George Kidd
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