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Post by Cap on Oct 7, 2021 20:52:49 GMT -5
So as the ballot approaches, any major risers or fallers? Anything surprising you are adding or taking off?
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Post by elliott on Oct 7, 2021 22:37:38 GMT -5
I've got an almost 25minute long match with Junkyard Dog and Nikolai Volkoff in it that's going to make my list and place well.
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Post by [Darren] on Oct 8, 2021 3:50:54 GMT -5
I've got an almost 25minute long match with Junkyard Dog and Nikolai Volkoff in it that's going to make my list and place well. I already have too many matches and need to narrow it down but this is just too enticing. I have a 12/16/83 match. Is that the one? |
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Post by Cap on Oct 8, 2021 4:49:36 GMT -5
I've got an almost 25minute long match with Junkyard Dog and Nikolai Volkoff in it that's going to make my list and place well. Is it nominated? |
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Post by cactus on Oct 8, 2021 9:00:13 GMT -5
My list is going to be massively different from last year's. Here's a few notes about what's changed.
- My last list was rushed as I didn't have much time to compile a top 100 and I missed out on a lot of stuff. Since last year, I had finally been able to get into World Of Sport and shoot-style wrestling.
- Kiyoshi Tamura went from having zero matches on my 2020 ballot to six matches on my current ballot draft.
- I've also given Puerto Rican wrestling a try and there's at least 2 locks from there too.
- Although I'm not the biggest Kenny Omega fan, one of his lesser-celebrated NJPW matches is now in my top 20.
- I've had to knock a number of my personal favourites off my list. Roddy Piper vs Bret Hart from WM8 is one of the main ones to fall on the chopping block.
- Eddie Guerrero vs Brock Lesnar from No Way Out 2004 is another notable cut.
- I'm struggling with the idea of Best vs Favourite when structuring my list. My current list is just my 5 star match list organized into a top 100. I might throw 10 or so personal favourite matches in, even if I didn't rate them the full five.
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Post by elliott on Oct 8, 2021 10:17:17 GMT -5
I've got an almost 25minute long match with Junkyard Dog and Nikolai Volkoff in it that's going to make my list and place well. Is it nominated? I thought I did when I was running through slaughter matches but I didn't see it when I did a quick search. Will make sure to put it in later today |
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Post by [Darren] on Oct 8, 2021 11:49:00 GMT -5
I’ve kept a running draft for a year + but didn’t sunlit a ballot last year. There’s been a lot of notable changes. I no longer feel the need to make a place for a match like 6/3/94 that so many people will vote high on that I don’t particularly care for. I think kinda being a nerd and studying this forum so throughly I’ve been able to more comfortably compile a list that I think actually are the greatest matches of all time but also reflect my own personal tastes. I do have blind spots and I have watched matches from various styles of pro wrestling (not terribly deep but I’ve dabbled). I sometimes look at my list and feel I have too much US matches, not enough Joshi or Lucha or shoot but I have some. And I have the matches that I love and can articulate why I love them. Maybe someday other things will click for me. I sometimes also worry I have too much of the same folks; there’s a lot of Terry Funk and a lot of Bryan Danielson. But l think those are the two greatest wrestlers of all time. So why wouldn’t there be a lot of them?
I’m just excited to see everyone’s lists and how this shapes up. I think y’all had 16 last time, and I’m new. So I hope there are others that also jumped on board because I find this project fascinating as hell.
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Post by elliott on Oct 8, 2021 16:53:52 GMT -5
I've got an almost 25minute long match with Junkyard Dog and Nikolai Volkoff in it that's going to make my list and place well. I already have too many matches and need to narrow it down but this is just too enticing. I have a 12/16/83 match. Is that the one? Its a tag match with Slaughter & Sheik. The Youtube comments says its October 84, but i'm 99.9% sure this is actually the 11/10/84 match. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff1OmV7wcCg&t=518s |
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Post by mvz on Oct 8, 2021 18:25:31 GMT -5
It’s funny, there are a few personal favorites that I rewatched and are not as high on my list of personal favorites anymore. I suspect I will struggle with the best vs favorite but myself and want to have room for some favorites as well.
I have not submitted a ballot before but I always had Flair-Steamboat at the Clash in my top 5 or so ever, but when I rewatched it I dropped it a tier which moves it to the middle of the pack and behind the other two matches in the 1989 trilogy which I thought held up better. I wonder when I get serious about putting this in order if it will fall further.
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Post by mvz on Oct 8, 2021 18:27:58 GMT -5
I thought I did when I was running through slaughter matches but I didn't see it when I did a quick search. Will make sure to put it in later today I definitely saw it, or at least a match with those four on the nomination process thread. Interestingly today I was searching for a match and the names of the participants didn’t come up even though it was also in the nomination process. (More on that match later. I was using my phone, dunno if that makes a difference. |
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Post by mvz on Oct 8, 2021 18:45:35 GMT -5
Darrenn, Your post speaks to me and we are in similar situations. I spent a huge percentage of my wrestling fandom focused on US wrestling, but I feel like I am putting in the work, as I can see you are. I may not get to everything but I am getting to a lot.
I worry about my list being a little chalky so I commend you for dropping out matches with big reps if you feel like they don't belong.
And my list will be a little top heavy on certain people as well, but that is just a natural way to prioritize I think.
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Post by elliott on Oct 8, 2021 18:49:20 GMT -5
I thought I did when I was running through slaughter matches but I didn't see it when I did a quick search. Will make sure to put it in later today I definitely saw it, or at least a match with those four on the nomination process thread. Interestingly today I was searching for a match and the names of the participants didn’t come up even though it was also in the nomination process. (More on that match later. I was using my phone, dunno if that makes a difference. Somethings up with the search function because it didn't come up for me either but there it was... gweproject.freeforums.net/thread/2229/sgt-slaughter-iron-sheik-volkoff |
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Post by Cap on Oct 9, 2021 10:18:44 GMT -5
yeah... the search function on this board is trash.
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Post by Cap on Oct 9, 2021 10:26:07 GMT -5
My list is going to be massively different from last year's. Here's a few notes about what's changed.
- My last list was rushed as I didn't have much time to compile a top 100 and I missed out on a lot of stuff. Since last year, I had finally been able to get into World Of Sport and shoot-style wrestling.
- Kiyoshi Tamura went from having zero matches on my 2020 ballot to six matches on my current ballot draft.
- I've also given Puerto Rican wrestling a try and there's at least 2 locks from there too.
- Although I'm not the biggest Kenny Omega fan, one of his lesser-celebrated NJPW matches is now in my top 20.
- I've had to knock a number of my personal favourites off my list. Roddy Piper vs Bret Hart from WM8 is one of the main ones to fall on the chopping block.
- Eddie Guerrero vs Brock Lesnar from No Way Out 2004 is another notable cut.
- I'm struggling with the idea of Best vs Favourite when structuring my list. My current list is just my 5 star match list organized into a top 100. I might throw 10 or so personal favourite matches in, even if I didn't rate them the full five.
Love how much Tamura you are adding.
Also low-key love kenny getting on your list.
I always want to put Guerrero v Brock on my list, but I can never justify it.
I think the favorite vs best thing is something most of us struggle with a bit. I usually at least reserve a couple of spots for matches I just want on my list (but are still GREAT).
Speaking of which, and we will talk about this more, I may float the idea of the 2022 list being a shorter "favorites" project. In short, we have been doing a little over a year between ballots each time (basically going to the next of the big 4 ppvs from wwe). If we do that after this ballot, we wont actually have a 2022 project. but maybe a little mini collection of favorites, even if it is just a thread where everyone adds theirs might be a way to make sure there is a "project". Just a thought I had while on a road trip recently.
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Post by Cap on Oct 9, 2021 10:58:36 GMT -5
Darrenn, Your post speaks to me and we are in similar situations. I spent a huge percentage of my wrestling fandom focused on US wrestling, but I feel like I am putting in the work, as I can see you are. I may not get to everything but I am getting to a lot. I worry about my list being a little chalky so I commend you for dropping out matches with big reps if you feel like they don't belong. And my list will be a little top heavy on certain people as well, but that is just a natural way to prioritize I think. I feel like my list is 1/2 chalky and 1/2 very "me". I feel like I get less chalky as I go, but as I look back I think the ratio is about the same, it just changes in the manner in which I am chalky and the manner in which I am "me" |
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