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Post by Cap on May 19, 2018 11:21:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I would up really loving that 91 match. Santo/Casas is one of those feuds I really need to revisit the classics in order to get a more secure feel for where I rank them. The 91 was the one I watched most recently so that might have something to do with why I have it higher. Either way, they are both otherwordly good matches.
Kobashi/Hansen is a match that just stands out to me in every single way. I actually like the handheld we have from them just about as much, actually prefer the finish. I won't be surprised if that sneaks up my list significantly. I also often go back and forth on which I like more between Kobashi/Hansen or Kawada/Hansen. Hansen falling out of the ring on the lariat is one of those "greatest things to happen ever in wrestling" moments.
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Post by elliott on May 20, 2018 2:07:08 GMT -5
I need to rewatch the 4/93 match. I kinda forget how awesome that one is. The July match is right there with the 7/79 Funks vs Abby/Sheik tag for best AJPW match ever in my opinion. In the past, I've thought the 4/93 match wasn't too far off 7/93 so I'll make rewatching that one a priority.
I will say, I've never enjoyed the Hansen vs Kawada match as much as a lot of people. I "like it" and think it is "great," but I've never seen it as a top 10 sort of match like you and many others do. It has just never clicked for me and Hansen is one of my two favorite guys ever.
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Post by jkwebb on Aug 10, 2018 9:07:45 GMT -5
This is where I am right now, but it’s pretty hard to choose even a top 10: 1. Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat - 04/02/1989 2. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi - 01/20/1997 3. Magnum TA vs. Tully Blanchard - 11/28/1985 4. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi - 03/01/2003 5. Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee - 06/06/1983 6. Curt Hennig vs. Nick Bockwinkel - 11/21/1986 7. Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk - 07/23/1989 8. Misawa & Kobashi vs. Kawada & Taue - 06/09/1995 9. Atlantis vs. Villano III - 3-17-2000 10. Buddy Rose & Doug Somers vs. Midnight Rockers - 08/30/1986 It was hard to leave off some personal favorites (which could make their way in).... Sting vs . Vader - 12/28/1992 & HBK vs. Undertaker - 10/05/1997 Also, my favorite wrestler is Savage so my top two of his will likely place high... Vs. Steamboat on 02/15/1987 & Warrior on 03/24/1991... There are plenty of other matches knocking on the door
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Post by jkwebb on Aug 10, 2018 9:25:13 GMT -5
Well, now that I’m thinking about it ... it’s probable I’ll bump something for Austin/Hart @13 .. man, we’ll see... this will be fun and tough...
I saw Sleeze had Kobashi/Akiyama listed in his top 10... also, another match I love....
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Post by bossrock on Sept 8, 2018 17:35:23 GMT -5
1. Mitsuharu Misawa and Toshiaki Kawada vs. Akira Taue and Toshiaki Kawada (6/9/1995) 2. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi (1/20/1997) 3. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi (10/31/1998) 4. Mitsuharu Misawa and Jun Akiyama vs. Akira Taue and Toshiaki Kawada (12/6/1996) 5. Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi, and Toshiaki Kawada vs. Jumbo Tsuruta, Masanobu Fuchi, and Akira Taue (4/20/1991) 6. Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk (Great American Bash) 7. Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi, and Toshiaki Kawada vs. Jumbo Tsuruta, Masanobu Fuchi, and Akira Taue (10/19/1990) 8. Kazuchika Okada vs. Katsuyori Shibata (Sakura Genesis) 9. Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi (7/29/1993) 10. Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi (10/25/1995)
I knew my list would be AJPW-heavy, but I wasn't expecting it to dominate the top 10 as much as it is now.
Flair-Funk at the Great American Bash is most likely to remain my pick for best North American match ever.
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Post by elliott on Sept 8, 2018 23:48:37 GMT -5
You've got 3 more 90s AJPW matches in your top 10 than I'll have in my top 100
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Post by elliott on Sept 9, 2018 2:56:26 GMT -5
Also, Bossrock, surprising that 6/3/94 isn't in your top 10 given all the AJPW matches in your top 10.
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Post by bossrock on Sept 9, 2018 19:00:40 GMT -5
This is why ranking these matches is going to be even harder than picking what makes the ballot, ha. I should probably stop doing these top 10's because it's fluctuating so much. While there's stuff like Funk-Flair, 1/20/97, and 10/31/98 that were always going to be top 10, there are so many matches that I change my opinion on every time I watch them. Like when I last watched Kawada-Misawa a few weeks ago I wasn't even sure it would make my top 20. I just watched it again today and it's borderline top 5.
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Post by elliott on Oct 23, 2018 20:55:40 GMT -5
Updated top 10: 1. Piper vs Valentine Dog Collar 2. Chicana vs MS-1 Hair vs Hair 9/23/83 3. Hokuto & Kandori vs Aja & Bull 3/27/94 4. Hokuto vs Kandori DreamSlam I 5. Santo vs Casas Mask vs Hair 9/19/97 6. Dump vs Chigusa Hair vs Hair 11/7/86 7. Hansen vs Andre 9/23/81 8. Wargames 7/4/87 9. Dump vs Chigusa Hair vs Hair 8/28/85 10. Invader I vs Al Perez Street Fight 10/26/86
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Post by bossrock on Oct 24, 2018 20:01:59 GMT -5
Chicana vs. MS-1 was finally unseated, eh?
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Post by elliott on Oct 25, 2018 13:12:10 GMT -5
Yeah. I think so. It really just hit me as the perfect match for what I look for and want in my wrestling. It is this intense over the top spectacle at times that still manages to focus on all the little details.
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Post by thepumalives on Dec 1, 2018 1:56:51 GMT -5
This is going to be hard to knock out a final order, but here’s the updated Top 10.
1. Ric Flair vs. Blackjack Mulligan Texas Death Match 10-23-78 2. Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels WM21 3. Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat 11-1978 4. Eddie Guerrero vs. JBL JD2004 5. Triple H vs. Cactus Jack Street Fight RR2000 6. Kurt Angle vs. Steve Austin SummerSlam 2001 7. Kenny Omega vs. Okada Dominion 2017 8. Ric Flair vs. Ted Dibiase 11-6-1985 9. Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart WM 13 10. Triple H vs. Cactus Jack No Way Out 2000
And really, there’s about a dozen matches that could fill spots 9 and 10.
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Post by tetsujin on Dec 1, 2018 5:46:37 GMT -5
I don't know if there's already an Angle match nominated but you totally need to nominate the HBK match. I'll second you with all of my heart.
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Post by wrestlingfan on Jan 12, 2019 21:57:13 GMT -5
It's really strange, people have matches in their running top 10's that are not even in the index of nominees ... As far as I'm concerned, I only watch and rank the ones that are in.
1 Kenta Kobashi vs Mitsuharu Misawa (Triple Crown Championship - AJPW - 1/20/1997) 2 Holy Demon Army vs Kenta Kobashi and Mitsuharu Misawa (Tag League Championship - AJPW - 6/9/1995) 3 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi (AJPW - 6/11/1999) 4 Ric Flair vs Terry Funk (I Quit - NWA World Championship - WCW - 11/15/1989) 5 Jumbo Tsuruta vs Genichiro Tenryu (Triple Crown Title – AJPW 6/5/1989) 6 Jumbo Tsuruta & Akira Taue vs Mitsuharu Misawa & Toshiaki Kawada (AJPW - 9/30/1990) 7 Mitsuharu Misawa vs Toshiaki Kawada (Triple Crown Championship - AJPW - 6/3/1994) 8 Kenta Kobashi vs Mitsuharu Misawa (Triple Crown Championship - AJPW - 10/31/1998) 9 Shinya Hashimoto & Yuji Nagata vs. Mitsuharu Misawa & Jun Akiyama (Z1 3/2/2001) 10 Kenta Kobashi vs Yoshihiro Takayama (NOAH - 4/25/2004)
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Post by kas on Jan 23, 2019 15:18:12 GMT -5
ATM this is my list - Kazuchika Okada vs Kenny Omega - 2/3 Falls Match (NJPW 06/09/2018)
- Kazuchika Okada vs Hiroshi Tanahashi (NJPW 04/07/2013)
- Akira Taue and Toshiaki Kawada vs Mitsuharu Misawa and Jun Akiyama (AJPW 12/06/1996)
- Mitsuharu Misawa vs Toshiaki Kawada (AJPW 06/03/1994)
- Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (WWE 04/05/2009)
- Akira Taue and Toshiaki Kawada vs Mitsuharu Misawa and Kenta Kobashi (AJPW 06/09/1995)
- Bret Hart vs Steve Austin (WWE 03/23/1997)
- Shingo Takagi vs Masaaki Mochizuki (Dragon Gate 11/01/2015)
- Kenta Kobashi vs Mitsuharu Misawa (I'm undecided as to whether to go for their NOAH match or their 1/20/1997 match)
- Akira Hokuto vs Shinobu Kandori (AJW 04/02/1993)
Undecided which Kobashi/Misawa match because I want all the matches on my list to be unique match-ups and no repeats. I don't think this will change by the time the ballot is due but I would love to be wrong about that.
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